Suella Braverman vows to stamp out grooming gangs behind organised child sex abuse

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The Home Secretary, writing in The Mail on Sunday, pledges to 'track down and punish the grooming gangs with the same sense of mission and determination' used to pursue the murderers of Stephen Lawrence, the black British teenager who was killed in a racially motivated attack at a bus stop in South London in 1993.

Ms Braverman, who was born in Harrow, in North-West London, to a Kenyan mother and Mauritian father, writes: 'The time has come to make right one of the greatest injustices seen in Britain in modern times. The systematic rape, exploitation and abuse of young girls by organised gangs of older men – and the disgraceful failure of the authorities to act despite ample evidence – is a stain on our country.'

A Buddhist, Ms Braverman describes the 'perpetrators' as 'groups of men, almost all British-Pakistani, who hold cultural attitudes completely incompatible with British values'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11928629/SUELLA-BRAVERMAN-mission-ensure-really-no-hiding-place-gangs-grooming-young-girls.html

I am not sure if this is just the DM take on what she said, or if it accurately reflects what she said.

If she did say this and not talk about how men of all cultures, given the opportunity, have and will exploit young women, then she is letting down all the women who are exploited.

What is Braverman actually doing about the problem?
What has the government done about the problem for the past 13 years, other than make it worse by massive cuts to the Criminal Justice system funding?

Fuck me! Not this ‘nothing has been done for 13yrs’ bullshit again. I have responded directly to you on that numerous times.

You say you “missed” the three pages when you’re all over them.

What is Braverman actually doing about the problem?

Seems you are opposed to her proposal to do something about it.

It is a different scenario because the conditions facilitating the abuse are different, and that is what society needs to recognise.

Abuse within the Catholic church is an example of a culture of silence, a culture of disbelief of victims, a culture where power positions are exploited by paedophiles, and a culture of cover-ups by leaders wanting to protect the brand.

Abuse by a grooming gang is an example of a hidden 'culture' operating on the outskirts of a diaspora, of reports ignored because they are inconvenient or difficult to police, of people in power wanting to avoid potentially explosive consequences and not wanting to open a Pandora's box of issues that have serious policy implications both locally and nationally, and within political parties.

https://www.nspcc.org.uk/what-is-child-abuse/types-of-abuse/child-sexual-exploitation/

When a child or young person is exploited they're given things, like gifts, drugs, money, status and affection, in exchange for performing sexual activities. Children and young people are often tricked into believing they're in a loving and consensual relationship. This is called grooming. They may trust their abuser and not understand that they're being abused

https://www.gov.scot/publications/child-sexual-exploitation-definition-practitioner-briefing-paper/
Child sexual exploitation is a form of child sexual abuse in which a person(s), of any age takes advantage of a power imbalance to force or entice a child into engaging in sexual activity in return for something received by the child and/or those perpetrating or facilitating the abuse

Catholic priests giving children a position of status (e.g. altar boy) fits this definition.

And if it hadn't been exposed, how would we know it had happened?

Selective reading and comprehension skills I expect.

Altar boy isn’t a position of status. It’s a chore. I know I was the female version of one (acolyte). It’s also not gang based/organise child sex abuse it is individual based.

Besides, priests don’t “give” you altar boy/acolyte duties, your parents sign you up to doing it.

It is all so involved and invested in deep loathing of anyone who is of the wrong tribe. Everything they say or do must be done for immoral or self serving puposes and everything they say or do is cast in the worst possible light.

Please do correct me if I am wrong, but the proposal amounts to having a consultation about whether or not to do something. Hardly earth shattering.

And in none of those responses was there anything that the government has done to address the problem.

I think we though can all agree that the 25% cuts the government has made to the Criminal Justice budget won't have helped.

Yes you are wrong.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-to-clamp-down-on-grooming-gangs

It’s either looked into or not. May as well determine what the issue is and how much it is an issue.

Some of the pp seem hung up on it happening at all. Which isn’t the best way to go.

So putting dozens of gangs, hundreds of gang members in prison over the last 13yrs is “nothing” right-o, I think I have the measure of you.

And there was no 25% cut. I posted the proof of that. There were smaller cuts 8 years ago to pay off war debts, but funding has been steadily increased since 2016.

FFS.

This is an issue of naming now is it.

Abuse.

Abuse can be sexual - sexual abuse.

Sexual abuse can be abuse of children - child sexual abuse.

Sexual abuse can involve exploitation - sexual exploitation

Children can be sexually exploited - child sexual exploitation

It is okay when looking at abuse to hone in on one aspect, for example, focusing on child sexual abuse, even though physical or emotional abuse may also be a factor for some or that others are sexually abused as adults. It is still acceptable and useful, to sometimes cut a slice through a phenomena to focus in this way, to lead to meaningful and useful information.

Likewise, organised abuse between a group of perpetrators can be similarly whittled down or sliced in a certain way for meaningful and useful information.

A global religion where those in authority are organising to sexually exploit children within its properties or congregation, those children are members of that religion and the abusers have groomed the parents of those children using the religion, deserves a specific, targeted investigation. Quite a lot has already been done in the Catholic Church. There was a lot of resistance though, because the Catholic Church holds a lot of authority and police themselves may have been Catholics, reluctant to pursue- leaving the Church to deal with it ‘internally’ for far too long.

A religion where ordinary members, from a particular region, are organising to sexually exploit children who are not from their religion or region, they do not groom the parents, they groom the children directly, also deserves a specific, targeted investigation. Not much has really been done in the case of the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs though and the reticence from the police is not totally understood.

There is no way to get to the heart of these gangs by looking at the Catholic Church. The only things they have in common is that the perpetrator group internally shares a common religion and their victims are children.

It is a deflection tactic to bring up the Catholic Church when trying to get a handle on a completely different group with a completely different modus operandi and completely different beliefs about their entitlement to abuse their victims.

Its irrelevant. It’s whataboutery.

I guess you have not heard of inflation?

Not much has really been done in the case of the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs

Don't tell other posters that, they get terribly upset when it is suggested the government could have done something sooner.

I think Suella Braveman herself could not have done anything sooner.

Inflation isn’t a type of funding cut by any rational definition.

I hate seeing our politics reduced to certain folks just calling everything "racist" or "hateful" etc.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1754400/Suella-Braverman-slaps-down-dog-whistle-claims

Asked to respond to the allegations, Home Secretary Suella Braverman told GB News tonight: “It’s not racist to tell the truth about what has been going on here in Rochdale, or in Rotherham or in Telford.”

“Local reviews and reports have confirmed that the grooming gangs scandal that has gone on here has been perpetrated by largely British Pakistani men.

“Now it’s important not to demonise a whole community and the vast majority of British Pakistanis are law-abiding and straightforward people.

“But it is also clear to say that in these towns - and I’ve met victims today who’ve confirmed as much, bearing out their own experience - that there have been cultural trends in the practices we’ve seen, and authorities and professionals have turned a blind eye out of fear of being called racist.

She could have been arguing in favour of measure to address CSE 10 years ago as other people were.

It looks like Priti Patel’s attempts to address it where thwarted by ‘politically correct’ interference, like we are seeing on this thread, too.

Were not where

Exactly, it’s whataboutery.

Great that you have such a grasp on her for the last 10 years. She only came to my attention recently. Quite the encyclopaedia of politicians- your mind.