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Shocking scenes in Auckland, TRA pours liquid on KJK

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JacquelinePot · 25/03/2023 09:59

I'm not even sure what to say about this, I just find it really shocking.

Baying mobs surrounded the intended event, one got onto the podium and poured red liquid all over KJK and KJK had to be removed amidst a huge crush.

I hope everyone is OK.

Watch: Anti-trans activist aborts Auckland rally amid counter-protesters | nzherald.co.nz

Thousands of counter-protesters see British anti-trans activist Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull abort her central Auckland rally. Full story: https://bit.ly/3FQx6xa...

https://youtu.be/NQtHwBAdunA

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L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 22:50

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 22:44

Right

gonna use some apparently a few times

so this apparently is the person who threw the soup https://twitter.com/ElianaRubashkyn/status/1639576127898550272?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

and apparently although they say intersex/trans a few years before they say born male

im gonna apparently my socks off….

Well, they fooled security and KJK both. How else could they get to within 10cm of her otherwise? If they’d seen this was a trans individual getting by KJK with a container holding I know liquid….they’d have stopped them.

Can hardly blame me for seeing a woman too when I have only footage to go by when even the people who were right next to them couldn’t tell.

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 22:51

Any man or woman that commits violence is the one responsible for it.

Inciting violence is a separate thing and an actual offence.

Hepwo · 25/03/2023 22:51

That's a new format I reckon Rufus. It seems to duplicate the tweet in a box ...

ElonsMusky · 25/03/2023 22:51

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CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 25/03/2023 22:52

ElonsMusky · 25/03/2023 22:22

AsSaUltEd

lol

🙄

Is that a yes or a no? I ask again, do you believe it’s acceptable to physically assault a political opponent?

I’m not familiar with the law in NZ but it’s a Commonwealth Realm so probably not that different to here.

Throwing liquid on someone is ‘common assault

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/offences-against-person-incorporating-charging-standard

Even if the liquid is just water, it’s assault.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/michelle-dodd-water-neighbour-reddish-8486045.amp

It’s the non-consensual aspect that defines an assault, not the injury (or lack of injury) caused. If physical injury occurs it becomes assault plus ABH (actual bodily harm) or assault plus GBH (grievous bodily harm).

So yes or no, do you believe that it’s acceptable to physically assault a political opponent?

Offences against the Person, incorporating the Charging Standard | The Crown Prosecution Service

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/offences-against-person-incorporating-charging-standard

Boiledbeetle · 25/03/2023 22:52
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RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 22:52

Hepwo · 25/03/2023 22:51

That's a new format I reckon Rufus. It seems to duplicate the tweet in a box ...

Thank fuck for that !!!

Hepwo · 25/03/2023 22:54

I've reported the N*zi comment.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 22:55

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 22:50

Well, they fooled security and KJK both. How else could they get to within 10cm of her otherwise? If they’d seen this was a trans individual getting by KJK with a container holding I know liquid….they’d have stopped them.

Can hardly blame me for seeing a woman too when I have only footage to go by when even the people who were right next to them couldn’t tell.

Dont quite know why you think anyone is blaming you for thinking they were born female

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 22:56

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 22:42

Nobody here has said the words ‘she deserved it’ about Ms Thorpe. Posies security did their job, you cannot approach her like that and expect security to let you, they moved her away. They did not assault her. You cannot tell IMO from the video I’ve seen how Ms Thorpe got to the ground, whether it was that policeman or she fell, other people are in the way, but they’re investigating right? Perhaps a different angle can resolve it.

You haven’t used the exact word “deserve” I do admit. But I am summing up the overall impression of your statements which do imply Lidia Thorpe got what she deserved. The ones above and ones like “security had to stop her” and “why the fuck is anyone questioning the necessity of security or their conduct in protecting Posie.”

You have indeed taken the “it wasn’t assault but even if it was assault, she got what she deserved” tactic which is quite disturbing to read when we keep in mind this is regarding what mostly certainly looks like assault and is now being investigated by the police.

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 22:58

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 22:55

Dont quite know why you think anyone is blaming you for thinking they were born female

There was a post saying something about barrelling in without fact checking or some such. I was responding to that by saying the two minor details that have come to light are immaterial to my points. I was also not the only one who had the same level of knowledge on this thread as other posts do show.

Boiledbeetle · 25/03/2023 22:59

FOJN · 25/03/2023 22:37

I wonder how many PBP's are on this thread.

Too many

ElonsMusky · 25/03/2023 22:59

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L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 23:00

Whaeanui · 25/03/2023 22:51

Any man or woman that commits violence is the one responsible for it.

Inciting violence is a separate thing and an actual offence.

So you agree with me on Lidia Thorpe now? Or is she still an exception?

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 23:00

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Counting down on deletion……

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 23:01

Counting down on deletion….

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 25/03/2023 23:01

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 23:00

Counting down on deletion……

Surely that one should be a permanent suspension?

Boiledbeetle · 25/03/2023 23:01

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Seriously what is your Fucking problem? Get help!

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 23:02

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 22:58

There was a post saying something about barrelling in without fact checking or some such. I was responding to that by saying the two minor details that have come to light are immaterial to my points. I was also not the only one who had the same level of knowledge on this thread as other posts do show.

Alright

you are being really defensive

I wasn’t having a pop when i said id heard they were male!!

Boiledbeetle · 25/03/2023 23:02

I'm awaiting the we've had multiple reports email.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 23:02

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 25/03/2023 23:01

Surely that one should be a permanent suspension?

Maybe

is the 6 week rolling deletion not a thing anymore?

its hard to keep up

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 23:03

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 23:02

Alright

you are being really defensive

I wasn’t having a pop when i said id heard they were male!!

It wasn’t your post? I can’t recall who it was, but wasn’t you. But I was happy to see your post linking to their Twitter. Sorry if you thought that was directed at you.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 25/03/2023 23:04

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 23:03

It wasn’t your post? I can’t recall who it was, but wasn’t you. But I was happy to see your post linking to their Twitter. Sorry if you thought that was directed at you.

Sorry

honestly threads move so fast 💐

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 23:04

L3ThirtySeven · 25/03/2023 23:03

It wasn’t your post? I can’t recall who it was, but wasn’t you. But I was happy to see your post linking to their Twitter. Sorry if you thought that was directed at you.

Who it was that was saying barrelling in without fact checking and sanctimonious walls of text. I thought they were having a go at me for thinking pink dress person was a woman.

ElonsMusky · 25/03/2023 23:04

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