Shocking scenes in Auckland, TRA pours liquid on KJK

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I'm not even sure what to say about this, I just find it really shocking.

Baying mobs surrounded the intended event, one got onto the podium and poured red liquid all over KJK and KJK had to be removed amidst a huge crush.

I hope everyone is OK.

In my Lesbian group around 2015, we had a male member that liked women, who had the full operation; no penis, no testicles. He announced it:(
It didn't matter; he behaved like the entitled male he was. We all loathed him. I wish the organizor had the fortitude to kick him out.
Having the operation means nothing; don't fall for this....

@Kyliealwayshadthebestdisco I think it's admirable to want to find a way that makes everyone happy but I really don't think that's possible. You can't compromise between the truth and a lie. You can't have women only spaces - and the safeguarding that provides - if you let some men in.

This is a bit old now but really helped me get my head around the situation when I first made my ascent

https://thenewbacklash.blogspot.com/?m=0

Male and female are exclusionary terms.

I don't think it's very dignified to force women to accommodate men when they are undressing or vulnerable no matter what clothing the man is taking off or whatever body modification he's gone through to support his own prejudice about his body.

Autogynephilia is one of the most common sexual fetishes. It's been estimated that 3% of all men have it.
Autogynephilia: an underappreciated paraphilia - PubMed (nih.gov)

In the not too distant past, everybody knew that some men got a sexual thrill by dressing in women's clothes, but what was understood less well that it wasn't really the clothes that were the fetish, but the idea of themselves as a woman.
Now all these men are being encouraged by the 'trans rights' idiocy and the general alphabet soup push to allow men to indulge their fetishes in public.
There are far far more of them than the homosexual transwomen, with their internalised homophobia.

It is shocking

Cultures which silence women with violence are common but not good

Why should someone whose concept of "woman" is so sexist and degrading that they believe it's something a man can be based on nothing more than his social, physical or sexual preferences be given some sort of "honorary woman" status simply because he's had cosmetic surgery?

Women are not resources to support men. Not even ones that are really sad. Not even if that would make the sad men so super happy. Women exist and have both value, and needs, in their own right.

And really vanishingly few transwomen 'pass' in real life.
I saw a transwoman today (a very rare occurrence where I live), I had 'clocked' them from the other end of the high street, by the way they walked. There is no surgery that can give a man a female pelvis.

Because males have higher social status in pretty much every society, people find it hard to not prioritise men’s wishes and demands over women, and feel sceptical about women saying “no!” to them. It’s all…

Surely there’s another way?

Surely women can budge up a bit?

Has no one noticed this man feels sad?

Let’s compromise (women) so he can have what he wants?

etc
etc.

That's what happened though. All the Brighton feminists sin page rubbish was quoted by an mp in Australia as a reason she was a dangerous Nazi bigot that had to be stopped. She was interviewed about it, and it ramped up from there. There's a direct link to them inciting violence.

What absolute rubbish. The Brighton feminists 'sin page' was a list of KJK's own quotes which are fundamentally in opposition to to what the Brighton feminists believe in. Therefore they did not attend her event.

I actually can't believe anyone would suggest that this is inciting violence.

Only violent men are responsible for male violence. FFS.

The walk is always a dead giveaway.

Not me personally. But a woman I know. She was quite resistant at first but I slowly explained over a number of conversations. She moves in very liberal MC circles. She sometimes makes comments to me of things she has observed when we meet up. She is interestingly highly trained in an interdisciplinary science, which incorporates biology, endocrinology and biochemistry etc. I think she now compartmentalises her life.

Yes. Social media makes it so incredibly obvious that the majority of people, both sexes, do this. It's like a worm that has drilled its way into our brains, even very feminist ones.

Partly it's because saying no to men has much worse consequences, potentially, than saying no to women. But whatever causes it, being aware of it happening is the first step.

Oh well Saphho, as you are here posting your bias as usual then we have to take your word for it over the woman that's actually just lived through it.

No.

Saying "no" to males is, in many cases, liable to get you a thump, a lesson learned in childhood for many girls who are then told "awww he only hit you because he LIKES you".

What crap.

Masochists. We're taught to be masochists. I wonder if that's the part that attracts that particular segment of the male population?

@garlicandsapphires you must notice the very sexualised presentation of the many of the transwomen protesting against women wanting to keep women's space and language for women? That or the very aggressive assertion that it should be given over by young women or men. The characters you describe who have had surgery and simply want to live their lives peacefully don't appear to be very much part of the discussion or to have been those who are pushing for change. Gender dysphoria on the whole seems to have become far less part of the discussion now that self ID is on the table. This is the real issue. The massive overreach. It begins to feel a bit straw man like to bring that in to the discussion when we are talking about women speaking up for women's space being drowned out by mob activity.

Absolutely women are socialized into it. And the gay males who were trans in my Lesbian social group were ghastly too; they tried to have me thrown out for joking; " Who would want to be male?"
Men always remain men no matter what they wear or whichever sex they are attracted to. They will always throw women under the bus to get what they want.

Inciting has a different meaning to responsible.

This is why there will always be a need for feminism and it will never be over.

If you look to the animal kingdom, you can see that there is a lot of instinctual ‘knowing your place’ in order to avoid conflict and potential injury. I believe it is hardwired- for survival, as well as learned by experience and conditioned by socialisation.

Only about 0.9% of women are lesbian (from the 2018 UK census - may have increased since then - a further 1.1% are bisexual) so its not hard to see what a massive impact having three times their number of AGP men could have.

Also, I have experienced ‘creepy’ men since I was a girl - the feeling that something is a bit off.

Men can often have paraphilias that seem inexplicable and weird. Like getting turned on by doing knitting or holding a handbag.

I feel women and girls should be given the dignity to not have to interact with men in a state of ‘gender euphoria’. There will be many who have a thing about putting make up on in a women’s bathroom, or even peeing in a women’s toilet.

The reason women have needed single sex space is basically to get away from the pervs. To have our dignity, our safety and privacy. I don’t think it’s a lot to ask.

Quite.

Jan Morris FATHERED FIVE CHILDREN.

In what koo-koo universe can fathering five children be described as ‘living like a woman’?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11527279/amp/Celebrated-writer-Jan-Morris-bully-hug-children-daughter-claims.html

I'm sure I saw videos of at least two incidents in France in which feminists were openly, physically attacked in the streets by men.

In all of my fifty years I've never known a time when men were quite so happy to show how much they fucking hate women.

Jeepers I’ve just looked that up. Matt Walsh commenting.

<a class="break-all" href="https://aboldwoman.substack.com/p/trans-activists-make-women-terrifiedaboldwoman.substack.com/p/trans-activists-make-women-terrified" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aboldwoman.substack.com/p/trans-activists-make-women-terrifiedaboldwoman.substack.com/p/trans-activists-make-women-terrified

In case people miss this on the other thread.
Reports from women who wanted to speak in NZ