World Athletics

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Press conference by Seb Coe stating that male to female transgender athletes who have gone through male puberty will be excluded from female competition!
At last.

So happy about this! Tom Daley is an absolute bellend.

I want her to be given a peerage so she can sit in the HoL.

Calm down Tom, nobody's after your knitting!

Literally nobody.

Wouldn't that be wonderful @LangClegsInSpace but is it only PM's (or ex dodgy PMs) who can elevate someone to the HoL? Or can the plebs make a case?

I'd argue that if you are so emotionally invested in gender change as a child to the point of medicalisation at an early age, you are unlikely to have enough emotional energy left to invest in training and learning a sport to a high enough level for elite competition at the same age.

You'd then have to make up for those skills later and you are liable to have more medical issues ongoing which would make a professional career in sport much harder to start than an older male competitor 'working backwards' into women's sport without puberty blockers or even cross sex hormones in early adulthood.

That's Tom who thinks human trafficking is cold and should be made easier in the UK. Tom who bought a baby in the US because he didn't like the law here on the sale of babies. Of course Tom knew what a woman was when he bought her skills in producing a baby for him.

That Tom champion of women's rights?

Yeah I think I'll happily watch him wail about how unfair life is.

Whispers: Tom. They can still compete as men. Won't it be great when things become inclusive and the men's category is switched to Open and Women's sport is preserved.

You will be fine competing against all these new whipper snapper transwomen half your age and being inclusive won't you?

From these links it looks like the Appointments Commission would be the way to go and it looks like the potential peer must first nominate themself.

https://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/about-lords/lords-appointment/

https://lordsappointments.independent.gov.uk/how-to-apply-2

Yes, the knitting is bad enough but it's the least of his crimes.

To echo someone upthread, can't you just try harder to gestate your own babies, Tom?

This is excellent news, hats off to all of the many campaigners who have relentlessly pursued this in the face of bitter opposition.

Nobody is being banned from anything. Athletes are required to compete in the correct sex class, which is completely fair.

You only think it’s not fair if you don’t understand why we have womens sports in the first place. Or if, like Tom, you pretend you don’t understand, when really, you very much do, you just don’t give a shit about women.

I’m also happy if the plan is to review it in the event of more evidence coming to light that requires a change, given that that evidence would have to be that males have no sporting advantage over females. Yeah, crack on

Where does this leave the IOC, who have never seemed to get a grip on this issue, or anything else much? I could mention other than £££ but don’t want this post be deleted!

That's interesting @LangClegsInSpace. I never imagined that you had to nominate yourself.

Perhaps we should send links to Sharron and encourage her to apply?

PS - as a knitter myself I am horrified by Tom's sweater (and the fact that he has "discovered" knitting as though he bloody invented it (but that's a whole other thread) 😡

Athletes who have grown up with a DSD will know they are men. They won't have started periods or gone though female puberty. They know what they're doing...

From the BBC:

The Council agreed to set up a working group for 12 months to "further consider the issue of transgender inclusion".

An independent chair will lead the group, while it will also include up to three council members, two athletes from the Athletes' Commission, a transgender athlete, three representatives of World Athletics' member federations and representatives of the World Athletics health and science department.

It will consult specifically with transgender athletes, as well as review and commission research and put forward recommendations to the Council.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/65051900

No guarantee that female competitors will be automatically included or consulted, I see...

Thanks to all who campaigned for fairness.

Caster Semenya
Beatrice Masilingi Christine Mboma
Francine Niyonsaba,

I suppose the aim is to get people who actually want to put in the work of turning up and debating, rather than just being in receipt of an honour.

Outside of political parties, the church, and being nominated by a resigning PM, this looks like the only option.

And all four are medal winners ( no surprise there)

I feel very sorry for the PP who's DD had a meltdown. I got a text from DD effectively saying "Thank Lord Seb. Now can they fuck off from my hockey field, out of my toilet and out of my changing room?"

I didn't know she cared but I do now.

In the press conference Sebastian Coe said there are no athletes with DSD currently competing in restricted events (i.e. female running events between 400m and 1 mile, jumping and throwing events) but there are 13 athletes with DSD who could potentially take part in these events except they refuse to lower their testosterone level.

Can't remember how many he said are currently competing in unrestricted events but he said 55% of them are competing in running events over 1 mile and the new rules would make things fairer, 45% are competing in events less than 400m and the new rules wouldn't make much difference.

HOORAH

And the way everyone fawns over him knitting. If it was a female athlete knitting no one would even notice.

Caster Semenya
Beatrice Masilingi Christine Mboma Francine Niyonsaba,
Margaret Wambui

Caster Semenya
Beatrice Masilingi
Christine Mboma
Francine Niyonsaba
Margaret Wambui
Werkwuha Getachew
Aminatou Seyni

Poor Jazz couldn't run the length of his own body and is the embodiment of comfort eating. His parents and TLC should be in jail.

It’s disappointing that this only for elite level - but it does set a precedent and makes it easier for local and National sporting bodies to draw up their own policies ‘in line with international guidance’.