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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lib Dems just showed their true colours

58 replies

Birdsweepsin · 18/03/2023 18:02

At the Liberal Democrat Conference just now.

A fairly ordinary motion to tidy up quotas on party committees - basically, as it stood women were disadvantaged as a committee could be constituted entirely of men and non-binary men.

Wasn't even allowed to be discussed. The zealots pushed a 'move to next business' vote to silence women.

Raging misogyny. It's really, really not a good look guys.

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ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 17:39

Monsters on the side of evil - well, crikey.

Don't hold back, tell us what you really think of women who believe there are only two sexes! 😂

TWETMIRF · 19/03/2023 18:00

He's tweeted that as a blue tick account making it clear that he's posting as a councillor. I see that as a breach of the code of conduct, does anyone fancy reporting him?

Code of conduct breach

FOJN · 19/03/2023 18:00

They are not critical of gender — they want to impose rigid and unchangeable gender roles on everyone, and don’t care who that imposition hurts or kills.

Misunderstanding, misrepresentation or stupidity?

MoltenLasagne · 19/03/2023 18:16

Lib Dems also wanted to promote prostitution as a career choice to school leavers so it's not as though they're new to the whole outrageous misogyny thing.

Farmageddon · 19/03/2023 18:24

TWETMIRF · 19/03/2023 18:00

He's tweeted that as a blue tick account making it clear that he's posting as a councillor. I see that as a breach of the code of conduct, does anyone fancy reporting him?

Code of conduct breach

If you are on twitter (I don't have an account sorry) you could send the tweet to Sex Matters (I think they have an account) or Maya Forstater, as they usually throw loads of sunlight on this stuff and have a good platform.

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 18:52

FOJN · 19/03/2023 18:00

They are not critical of gender — they want to impose rigid and unchangeable gender roles on everyone, and don’t care who that imposition hurts or kills.

Misunderstanding, misrepresentation or stupidity?

I think that person may be a satire. But I honestly can't tell. If they are, fair play, you got me! If not, geezo.

Birdsweepsin · 19/03/2023 19:53

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 18:52

I think that person may be a satire. But I honestly can't tell. If they are, fair play, you got me! If not, geezo.

They never allow anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint to speak.

Which creates a void that they then fill with all this Nazi/ tradwife bollocks.

It's utterly terrifying. Like being in a cult. And if you dare even just try to ask a question, you are tarred and feathered!

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HagoftheNorth · 19/03/2023 20:36

Well, good to see traditions of democracy and respectfully trying to understand other people’s pov are alive and well in the…… not the LibDems. Shame, we have some good local LibDems (and Green) councillors, who are all GC, but too scared to say so in public

FOJN · 19/03/2023 20:43

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 18:52

I think that person may be a satire. But I honestly can't tell. If they are, fair play, you got me! If not, geezo.

If they are then they got me too. I have seen worse written in all seriousness by the Libdems. As you say it's so hard to tell these days.

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 22:23

Birdsweepsin · 19/03/2023 19:53

They never allow anyone who disagrees with their viewpoint to speak.

Which creates a void that they then fill with all this Nazi/ tradwife bollocks.

It's utterly terrifying. Like being in a cult. And if you dare even just try to ask a question, you are tarred and feathered!

It reminds me of where the rest of the country was about four or five years back.

TheBiologyStupid · 19/03/2023 22:38

FOJN · 19/03/2023 18:00

They are not critical of gender — they want to impose rigid and unchangeable gender roles on everyone, and don’t care who that imposition hurts or kills.

Misunderstanding, misrepresentation or stupidity?

All 3?!

Winterborne74 · 19/03/2023 23:03

I know it’s a cliche, but it’s so weird seeing a 21st Century Witch Hunt in real time. Maddening that the WEP is such a lost cause. Greens, LibDems, actively saying they don’t want my vote. Labour mostly tolerant of outright misogyny while gingerly hoiking one buttock onto the fence.

I evidently wrongly used to have the impression that the LibDems were a party of ideas. Wonder what Charles Kennedy would have made of it all.

And whenever I think of the LibDems on this subject I think of this mind blowing line from Jo Swinson’s book ostensibly on how to achieve “Equal Power”:

Writing in Equal Power about her time working at Viking FM in the 2000s and how male-dominated radio is, she says: “In fact the gender balance was slightly better than we knew at the time, as our anchor breakfast presenter was Stephanie Hirst, at the time known as Simon.” She does not appear to be joking.

unherd.com/2019/12/jo-swinsons-feminist-credentials-are-a-joke/

TheBiologyStupid · 19/03/2023 23:36

Thanks, Winterborne - I'd missed that article about Swinson. What an idiot.

FuckNuggets · 19/03/2023 23:45

ArabellaScott · 18/03/2023 18:10

I used to rate the Libdems. What happened to them?

They got in bed with the Tories 13 years ago.

Winterborne74 · 19/03/2023 23:54

See it in action:

twitter.com/treesey/status/1637426420883357699?s=61&t=vrfh73NvYySozkuIkLckQw

Birdsweepsin · 20/03/2023 08:20

I'm just pondering.

1.Trans activists destroyed Nicola Sturgeon, and have badly damaged the SNP

  1. Many, many people, especially women, on the left or centre (and hugely anti-Tory because... well, just look at all this... manic gesturing ) describe themselves as politically homeless

Why the fuck aren't they reading the room and appealing to women? It ought to be obvious.

Numpties.

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FOJN · 20/03/2023 08:39

Winterborne74 · 19/03/2023 23:54

Thanks for posting that.

I always vote Libdem until the coalition and Nick Clegg screwed up the voting reform referendum which I imagine he negotiate in exchange for taking responsibility for increasing tuition fees.

Anyway there is no way I could vote for them now, listening to them heckle a woman pointing out that meeting female representation quotas wth non binary males and
transwomen is not equality is chilling. There is no shame about the misogyny which is rife in the party or any will to address it.

Birdsweepsin · 20/03/2023 19:06

Instant karma

www.theargus.co.uk/news/23398819.lewes-mp-maria-caulfield-slams-councillor-sean-macleod-tweet/

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WildishBambino · 20/03/2023 20:39

The house journal of the Lib Dems says it's time to kick out GC women.

Comments 100% in favour. First comment from transwoman Sarah Brown, well known harasser of women.

They definitely don't want your vote.

mach2 · 20/03/2023 21:37

That article is just mental, not to mention the comments - one accuses GC women of wanting to enforce gender roles! Beyond fixing.

Birdsweepsin · 20/03/2023 22:47

WildishBambino · 20/03/2023 20:39

The house journal of the Lib Dems says it's time to kick out GC women.

Comments 100% in favour. First comment from transwoman Sarah Brown, well known harasser of women.

They definitely don't want your vote.

Comments 100% in favour.

Comments also 100% moderated.

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TheBiologyStupid · 20/03/2023 23:42

Comments also 100% moderated.

I assumed so. So authoritarian and censorious, yet still apparently "Liberals". FFS!

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/03/2023 02:09

TheBiologyStupid · 20/03/2023 23:42

Comments also 100% moderated.

I assumed so. So authoritarian and censorious, yet still apparently "Liberals". FFS!

That reminds meof this twitter exchange from 2018, when it was rumoured that Ian Huntley identified as trans

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Alisdair Calder McGregor Jun 6 V

Hi. I am a member of the LibDems Federal Policy Committee, & the liaison between FPC and LGBTbLD

LibDem Policy, which was explicitly stated in the most recent Manifesto, is that prisoners should be held in facilities which reflecting Gender Identity, not birth Gender assignment.

Zetetic Elench. 20h V

Hi Alisdair, do you think people referring to lan Huntley (the child murderer) by the name and sex recorded on his birth certificate, should be banned from Twitter?

Alisdair Calder McGregor . 20h V

No. I'm a Liberal, I'm very rarely in favour of banning things. If you want to make yourself an obvious transphobic arse by deadnaming a transperson - whoever they are & whatever they've done - then that's your moral failure in public.

Lib Dems just showed their true colours
SinnerBoy · 21/03/2023 05:40

EpicChaos · 18/03/2023 21:43

Nb's and various other things, such as paedophilia and coprophilia...

Was it not - even worse - coprophagia?

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