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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Am I Reading This Right?... Rosie Duffield Throwing KJK Under The Bus?!

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EpicChaos · 10/03/2023 02:23

From what i can tell, Rosie has quote tweeted a lloyd russell tweet, that is having a go at Kellie J.
Rosie it seems, has thrown Kellie under the bus by claiming, ' look i'm not like that other woman, so listen to me '! That's how i'm reading it anyway.
If so, that's the last time i hop in when it's rosie getting all the flak, she can do one!
I notice Bindle is there too!

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CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 11/03/2023 19:37

SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 19:27

Prioritising abortion being a woman's human right is a bubble of stupidity hey?

I agree this feminism board has got very weird.

No.
Demanding one particular British woman make it her top priority and smearing her as a right wing antiabortionist when she doesn’t is the stupid bit. Whether that phenomenon is confined to Brighton or not I could not say.

EpicChaos · 11/03/2023 19:45

@SapphosRock · Today 14:19
" But really what she is saying here "

You what now? What makes you think that you understand what KJK is saying better than she understands it herself?
You seem to have great difficulty understanding the basic rudiments and fundementals of human biology but you want us to believe that you are some sort of forensic psychologist/psychiatrist?!
I don't think so, i really don't think so at all!

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SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 19:50

EpicChaos · 11/03/2023 19:45

@SapphosRock · Today 14:19
" But really what she is saying here "

You what now? What makes you think that you understand what KJK is saying better than she understands it herself?
You seem to have great difficulty understanding the basic rudiments and fundementals of human biology but you want us to believe that you are some sort of forensic psychologist/psychiatrist?!
I don't think so, i really don't think so at all!

I was quoting Tabasco007's post at 7.35

Helleofabore · 11/03/2023 20:06

SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 19:27

Prioritising abortion being a woman's human right is a bubble of stupidity hey?

I agree this feminism board has got very weird.

Ok.

Why don’t you start a thread on it and debate with everyone whether it should be a priority right at this time or not.

Rather than continuing this direction on this thread where you have made some unfounded and slyly indirect claims about Kellie Jay.

I am not sure how many people and how many times you can ignore telling you that your posts are coming across as dishonest now.

SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 20:12

The post I am being criticised for was written by someone else. But okay then 😂

Btw OP if you incorrectly attribute a post to someone it is good manners to apologise.

EpicChaos · 11/03/2023 20:19

@SapphosRock and indeed sappho's sorry indeed for the misquote, however, as you hadn't attributed the quote to whoever said it, it was an easy mistake to make., however, sorry nonetheless, though you could have been a bit more patient in your demand for attention, i tripped off to find something to eat and do one or two other things.

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SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 20:29

No probs @EpicChaos , apology accepted and hope you found something nice to eat.

The wife is away this weekend and I am losing motivation to cook.

EpicChaos · 11/03/2023 20:42

@SapphosRock

Just an ASDA basics lasagne Sapphos but it'll do for now, thanks :-)

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EndlessTea · 11/03/2023 20:43

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 11/03/2023 19:37

No.
Demanding one particular British woman make it her top priority and smearing her as a right wing antiabortionist when she doesn’t is the stupid bit. Whether that phenomenon is confined to Brighton or not I could not say.

People outside Brighton talk bollocks too - take Stella Creasy for example….

The whole abortion thing - it’s just strategic piggy backing that has worked for TRAs in Ireland.

Pretending our situation is comparable to America is like saying we need to ‘prioritise the indigenous people’ of the UK.

Datun · 11/03/2023 20:58

SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 19:14

Stella Creasy is doing some work to try and make abortion a human right in the UK. At the moment it is technically a criminal offense.

I don't agree with SC on a lot of things but I do on that. Abortion rights are fragile. I can see why she has made it a priority.

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/why-right-abortion-doesnt-actually-exist-britain/

Meanwhile, you cant seriously think that a woman travelling all over the western world, specifically to give a platform to women affected by gender ideology, in the teeth of death threats and relentless violence, should drop all that in favour of prioritising something else entirely.

Can you.

SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 21:39

Datun that depends on your definition of women's rights.

A women's right to access single sex spaces is not worlds apart from a women's right to access legal abortion.

Lots of feminists (ie Rosie Duffield) consider these equally important issues.

Datun · 11/03/2023 22:36

SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 21:39

Datun that depends on your definition of women's rights.

A women's right to access single sex spaces is not worlds apart from a women's right to access legal abortion.

Lots of feminists (ie Rosie Duffield) consider these equally important issues.

Look at that. Another attempt at division.

It's second nature to you, isn't it sapphos.

SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 22:50

I'm with Rosie Duffield on this one. GC women are not a hive mind and have different priorities.

If that is divisive then so be it.

DemiColon · 11/03/2023 22:53

Lots of feminists (ie Rosie Duffield) consider these equally important issues.

So what? Some don't think they are equally urgent, or as equally important in themselves, or some may even have different opinions on them altogether.

You seem to have serious trouble understanding that different people, even with a similar desire for some general outcome, might have various viewpoints on what that means or how to achieve it.

EndlessTea · 11/03/2023 23:11

Anyway. If a seething misogynist like LRM suddenly takes an interest in women’s right to anything, I smell a rat.

EpicChaos · 11/03/2023 23:31

EndlessTea · 11/03/2023 23:11

Anyway. If a seething misogynist like LRM suddenly takes an interest in women’s right to anything, I smell a rat.

You and me both @EndlessTea you and me both!

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Floisme · 11/03/2023 23:32

Sapphos the KJK quote you posted upthread (14.19) isn't even complete. Why did you use it when it literally ends mid sentence?

The last time I saw you on here you were using a screenshot of a KJK retweet that had been framed so that it looked like she was in conversation with someone making homophobic comments. This was pointed out to you but you didn't amend your post.

After the Brighton SFW event I think I remember you complaining that nobody had spoken about the Sarah Summers case but it turned out you had been at the meeting yourself but had chosen not to speak.

Why do you keep doing this?
Because I'll tell you what, it's not KJK's reputation being damaged.

dimorphism · 11/03/2023 23:55

Kellie- jay instinctively gets safeguarding.

Many left wing feminists really do not

Here's the key point upon which the law and safeguarding frameworks are built: children are not the same as adults and to treat them as mini adults is very often harmful to them

Again: why are girls being treated like adults when it comes to sexual activity but not anything else (getting a job, driving, drinking, living independently)? Who does this benefit?

Why do some people seem hell bent on removing the support of the people who statistically are most likely to safeguard those children and act in their best interests? Why is one of the central principles of safeguarding -, information sharing - being ignored?

dimorphism · 12/03/2023 00:00

And finally why are politicians spending their time criticizing one woman who holds no office rather than focusing on fixing the safeguarding holes which are harming children, and there are many.

Datun · 12/03/2023 01:23

SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 22:50

I'm with Rosie Duffield on this one. GC women are not a hive mind and have different priorities.

If that is divisive then so be it.

Unfortunately what KJK said could be used against GC women to support that narrative. Yes I know young girls getting abortions is a different issue but TRAs clutch at straws.

Indeed they do.

EndlessTea · 12/03/2023 07:26

To be honest, I think we should be all over Stella Creasy’s proposals - TRAs are bound to be tagging something dubious onto it. It will probably be called something like ‘the reproductive rights bill’ and they’ll bring surrogacy and state provision of opposite sex parents who have no legal rights to their biological child through coerced ‘donation’. Something like that.

AlisonDonut · 12/03/2023 07:48

SapphosRock · 11/03/2023 22:50

I'm with Rosie Duffield on this one. GC women are not a hive mind and have different priorities.

If that is divisive then so be it.

Apart from Posie who is only allowed to do what your checklist states she can do. Got it.

SapphosRock · 12/03/2023 07:59

No. KJK said she would be willing to give up her right to a legal abortion in her fight against gender ideology. That is perfectly okay but lots of GC feminists absolutely would not give up their right to legal abortion.

If a politician if very clear that she is pro-choice and prioritises abortion rights this is not throwing KJK under a bus, it is having different priorities.

Floisme · 12/03/2023 08:20

Sapphos for the 3rd time of asking:
You have used an incomplete screenshot of a KJK post to demonstrate you point:.
Why did you use a post that's cut off mid sentence?
Why is it cut at this point?
What does it go on to say?

twitterexile · 12/03/2023 08:42

EndlessTea · 10/03/2023 08:00

I think protecting underage girls from statutory rape and sexual exploitation is a feminist issue.

Who does it serve to give a twelve year old girl contraception without informing the parents or social services?

Oh yeah - it serves the blokes who want to fuck underage girls without detection or consequence. I can understand why LRM would be on their side, but feminists? Hmmm…

Still reading through the thread but thank you for saying this. Am open mouthed in shock at some of the posts I am reading. 😡