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Ridiculous responses to JK Rowling tweeting about equalities act petition.

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howmanybicycles · 08/03/2023 17:31

So happy that JKR has tweeted the petition to update the equalities act to make it clear that sex, not gender is a protected characteristic. Responses her tweet are full of the usual smoke and mirrors and mysgnynistic insult– just wanted to collate them to help me better see the tactics of those who seek to dismantle women's rights. Have I missed any?

  1. Trying to make out that JK Rowling is supporting the murder of a transgirl teen. She’s not and has never said anything which could be reasonably interpreted as that. It’s perfectly possible to imagine a society where transgirls use the facilities for their biological sex and aren’t murdered. It’s a travesty and a tragedy if anyone is murdered just for being trans identifying and JK Rowing very clearly agrees with that. We’ve spent years trying to work towards just such a society for gay men who are more at risk than heterosexual men. No-one blames women for not letting them into the ladies if bad things happen in the men’s.

  2. Pictures of transwomen asking what would happen if they went into the men’s. Firstly, most TW don’t pass outside of photos but also see above. Secondly, the TW are focusing on the signifiers of dress and hair and makeup but that’s not relevant to many. I don’t care what men wear, but their gait, girth, voice and adam’s apple etc. show them very clearly to be men. The problem here is male violence. If men have a problem with other males wearing dresses and make-up in their facilities then the men are the problem. You can want to wear these things and not be trans identifying so moving all the TW into the ladies doesn’t really solve the problem even if you ignore the dangers to women which this does.

  3. “You’ve already lost this battle so why are you still banging on about it?”. Would those misogynists have said that to the suffragettes. This particular comment is very clearly a ‘back in your box’ one.

  4. “you’re trying to force people to discriminate” – well that one’s just ridiculous. Keeping males out of female only spaces is clearly not discriminating!

  5. “You’d have to check genitals” – also clearly ridiculous. I guess that person has not heard of secondary sexual characteristics or is choosing to pretend they’ve not. “you’re making it such that all women have to produce ID to enter any female space” – same sort of nonsense really

  6. “some males do pass” yes but the vast majority don’t and if you let passing males in, you have to also let in ant other man who ‘feels like a woman’.

  7. “feminism is for all women”. Yes that’s the point. TW are men. If you want to dispute that, give us a definition of women which includes all those people who are women and all those people who feel like women and don’t rely on gender identity cos so many women don’t have one.

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ErrolTheDragon · 09/03/2023 23:32

wantmorenow · 09/03/2023 22:32

My MP is Jamie Wallis 😩

Maybe send him the link to Fionne's video of the petition to show that trans males can have the grace and courage to support women's rights.

JanesLittleGirl · 10/03/2023 18:51

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 22:48

Are you sure. It's like hard drugs once you've had that first taste of sweet sweet (very sweet) bliss and seen the edges of heaven itself there is no going back.

Save yourself, update the delivery address to my house.

The package was on the kitchen table when I got home. They're good.... very good but soooo sweet! I can't eat one with a G&T (the G&T was already poured). But they will go great with a cup of tea. The really good news is DH says Sainsbury's sell them so I never need to run out. Christ but I've had a sheltered life.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 10/03/2023 18:53

JanesLittleGirl · 10/03/2023 18:51

The package was on the kitchen table when I got home. They're good.... very good but soooo sweet! I can't eat one with a G&T (the G&T was already poured). But they will go great with a cup of tea. The really good news is DH says Sainsbury's sell them so I never need to run out. Christ but I've had a sheltered life.

Oh yes, definitely to eaten with a large cup of strong tea.

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 18:59

JanesLittleGirl · 10/03/2023 18:51

The package was on the kitchen table when I got home. They're good.... very good but soooo sweet! I can't eat one with a G&T (the G&T was already poured). But they will go great with a cup of tea. The really good news is DH says Sainsbury's sell them so I never need to run out. Christ but I've had a sheltered life.

You didn't believe me did you. They can't be that sweet you thought!!

If.you want to relive the exuberant joy of being a 5 year old who has just eaten their body weight in sugar eat a box of six in go, then try to stand up. You'll either come over all funny and need to sit down again or be running round the house like a whirlwind

Ourladycheesusedatum · 10/03/2023 21:14

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 18:59

You didn't believe me did you. They can't be that sweet you thought!!

If.you want to relive the exuberant joy of being a 5 year old who has just eaten their body weight in sugar eat a box of six in go, then try to stand up. You'll either come over all funny and need to sit down again or be running round the house like a whirlwind

Nods sagely, boiled knows her foodstuff.

Big cuppa and box of tunnocks teacakes. A good hangover cure I'm told, kills ya or cures ya.
I mean I'm classy and go for flat coke and a quarter pounder with cheese, but that means driving or walking with the hangover.

Aldi sell em too.

JanesLittleGirl · 10/03/2023 22:33

Ourladycheesusedatum · 10/03/2023 21:14

Nods sagely, boiled knows her foodstuff.

Big cuppa and box of tunnocks teacakes. A good hangover cure I'm told, kills ya or cures ya.
I mean I'm classy and go for flat coke and a quarter pounder with cheese, but that means driving or walking with the hangover.

Aldi sell em too.

How have I not known about these? I put the rest of them in the fridge because I like crunchy chocolate,drank my G&T, had a shower, and ate a pizza. Then I had another one with a glass of whisky. Jesus H fucking Christ! This just works so well.

Wondering about the dark chocolate ones. Any views?

JanesLittleGirl · 10/03/2023 22:36

Sorry for the pathetic derail. Bloody thrilled that we smashed the 10,000 petition signatures.

ScrollingLeaves · 10/03/2023 22:47

JanesLittleGirl · Today 22:36
Sorry for the pathetic derail. Bloody thrilled that we smashed the 10,000 petition signatures

You did mean, 💯000 didn’t you? One hundred thousand?

It is absolutely wonderful.

It had been beginning to look as though we’d get to April 20th narrowly missing that number.

JanesLittleGirl · 10/03/2023 22:52

ScrollingLeaves · 10/03/2023 22:47

JanesLittleGirl · Today 22:36
Sorry for the pathetic derail. Bloody thrilled that we smashed the 10,000 petition signatures

You did mean, 💯000 didn’t you? One hundred thousand?

It is absolutely wonderful.

It had been beginning to look as though we’d get to April 20th narrowly missing that number.

Fat fingers. Yes, I did mean 100,000 - and still growing.

IcakethereforeIam · 10/03/2023 22:57

Just a second, backtrack a moment....they do dark chocolate tunnock's teacakes? Why did no one tell me! I've wasted my life!

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 23:20

IcakethereforeIam · 10/03/2023 22:57

Just a second, backtrack a moment....they do dark chocolate tunnock's teacakes? Why did no one tell me! I've wasted my life!

Announcement

It has been discovered that Tunnocks products are bad for your health they contain mutter mutter mutter. As such they have ALL been recalled.

My house is acting as a temporary collection depot.

Do not eat any remaining Tunnocks products.

Send them immediately to:

Boiledbeetle

Beetle Castle

Beetle

BEE TLE

Ourladycheesusedatum · 11/03/2023 11:06

Boiledbeetle · 10/03/2023 23:20

Announcement

It has been discovered that Tunnocks products are bad for your health they contain mutter mutter mutter. As such they have ALL been recalled.

My house is acting as a temporary collection depot.

Do not eat any remaining Tunnocks products.

Send them immediately to:

Boiledbeetle

Beetle Castle

Beetle

BEE TLE

I AM NOT FALLING FOR THAT AGAIN.
you already sequestered ALL the cheese. And cake.
No this time it's my house, all dark chocolate tunnock's to mine, pronto. And any remaining cheese too, oh fuck it throw in some cake while your couriering foods.

Much thanks.

Boiledbeetle · 11/03/2023 12:04

Ourladycheesusedatum · 11/03/2023 11:06

I AM NOT FALLING FOR THAT AGAIN.
you already sequestered ALL the cheese. And cake.
No this time it's my house, all dark chocolate tunnock's to mine, pronto. And any remaining cheese too, oh fuck it throw in some cake while your couriering foods.

Much thanks.

Wipes chocolate from around mouth.

It's OK, you can have all the dark tunnocks I'll forward them on.

Turns out there are a lot of gullible safety conscious mumsnetters out there who heeded the safety recall.

I have of course incinerated the contents and will put the wrappers in the recycling.

Ridiculous responses to JK Rowling tweeting about equalities act petition.
SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/03/2023 12:24

I have very fond memories of tunnocks caramel wafers. For some bizarre and wonderful reason, my grandparents counted them as biscuits. So they were in the biscuit tin. Which meant when we were visiting and the biscuit tin came round you were allowed to select a tunnocks wafer in the exact same way as you could select a bourbon or a rich tea. It was amazing!

JanesLittleGirl · 11/03/2023 15:13

@BoiledBeetle I am trying to develop a loving and long-term relationship with Tunnocks tea cakes and you are determined to seize all the tea cakes in the world. This is literal genocide against the most vulnerable and marginalised group in society. Please do not deny my basic human rights just to satisfy your cakeism? Listen to the speeches of RLM and educate yourself.

Boiledbeetle · 11/03/2023 15:33

JanesLittleGirl · 11/03/2023 15:13

@BoiledBeetle I am trying to develop a loving and long-term relationship with Tunnocks tea cakes and you are determined to seize all the tea cakes in the world. This is literal genocide against the most vulnerable and marginalised group in society. Please do not deny my basic human rights just to satisfy your cakeism? Listen to the speeches of RLM and educate yourself.

I've thought long and hard on your thoughtful words....

Fine you can have the tea cakes, just send me tunnocks caramel logs. I find it best not to mix your tunnocks or you end up with a terrible sugar hangover.

Boiledbeetle · 11/03/2023 15:37

OK who did this? That's an awful lot of tunnocks eating

Ridiculous responses to JK Rowling tweeting about equalities act petition.
MavisMcMinty · 11/03/2023 15:47

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/03/2023 12:24

I have very fond memories of tunnocks caramel wafers. For some bizarre and wonderful reason, my grandparents counted them as biscuits. So they were in the biscuit tin. Which meant when we were visiting and the biscuit tin came round you were allowed to select a tunnocks wafer in the exact same way as you could select a bourbon or a rich tea. It was amazing!

Aww, this is a wonderful post.

JanesLittleGirl · 11/03/2023 18:49

Boiledbeetle · 11/03/2023 15:33

I've thought long and hard on your thoughtful words....

Fine you can have the tea cakes, just send me tunnocks caramel logs. I find it best not to mix your tunnocks or you end up with a terrible sugar hangover.

Thank you for your kind consideration. Sadly, I can't send you any caramel logs as I don't have any. I don't even have any dark chocolate tea cakes as Sainsbury's doesn't sell them.

Boiledbeetle · 11/03/2023 18:51

JanesLittleGirl · 11/03/2023 18:49

Thank you for your kind consideration. Sadly, I can't send you any caramel logs as I don't have any. I don't even have any dark chocolate tea cakes as Sainsbury's doesn't sell them.

They sell the dark caramel logs though!

Boiledbeetle · 11/03/2023 18:51

Mine does anyway!

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