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Ridiculous responses to JK Rowling tweeting about equalities act petition.

196 replies

howmanybicycles · 08/03/2023 17:31

So happy that JKR has tweeted the petition to update the equalities act to make it clear that sex, not gender is a protected characteristic. Responses her tweet are full of the usual smoke and mirrors and mysgnynistic insult– just wanted to collate them to help me better see the tactics of those who seek to dismantle women's rights. Have I missed any?

  1. Trying to make out that JK Rowling is supporting the murder of a transgirl teen. She’s not and has never said anything which could be reasonably interpreted as that. It’s perfectly possible to imagine a society where transgirls use the facilities for their biological sex and aren’t murdered. It’s a travesty and a tragedy if anyone is murdered just for being trans identifying and JK Rowing very clearly agrees with that. We’ve spent years trying to work towards just such a society for gay men who are more at risk than heterosexual men. No-one blames women for not letting them into the ladies if bad things happen in the men’s.

  2. Pictures of transwomen asking what would happen if they went into the men’s. Firstly, most TW don’t pass outside of photos but also see above. Secondly, the TW are focusing on the signifiers of dress and hair and makeup but that’s not relevant to many. I don’t care what men wear, but their gait, girth, voice and adam’s apple etc. show them very clearly to be men. The problem here is male violence. If men have a problem with other males wearing dresses and make-up in their facilities then the men are the problem. You can want to wear these things and not be trans identifying so moving all the TW into the ladies doesn’t really solve the problem even if you ignore the dangers to women which this does.

  3. “You’ve already lost this battle so why are you still banging on about it?”. Would those misogynists have said that to the suffragettes. This particular comment is very clearly a ‘back in your box’ one.

  4. “you’re trying to force people to discriminate” – well that one’s just ridiculous. Keeping males out of female only spaces is clearly not discriminating!

  5. “You’d have to check genitals” – also clearly ridiculous. I guess that person has not heard of secondary sexual characteristics or is choosing to pretend they’ve not. “you’re making it such that all women have to produce ID to enter any female space” – same sort of nonsense really

  6. “some males do pass” yes but the vast majority don’t and if you let passing males in, you have to also let in ant other man who ‘feels like a woman’.

  7. “feminism is for all women”. Yes that’s the point. TW are men. If you want to dispute that, give us a definition of women which includes all those people who are women and all those people who feel like women and don’t rely on gender identity cos so many women don’t have one.

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WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 09/03/2023 13:33

Fucking YES!!!!!

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 09/03/2023 13:34

Shall we all link arms and have a little sing song Grin

It'll be interesting to see how many signatures it does get in total.

WhisperingAutistic · 09/03/2023 13:35

Absolutely wonderful news 🥳

beastlyslumber · 09/03/2023 13:36

That's awesome. I ♡ JK.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/03/2023 14:00

Whoop

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 14:09

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 09/03/2023 13:34

Shall we all link arms and have a little sing song Grin

It'll be interesting to see how many signatures it does get in total.

Yeah what's the women's rights song sang to auld whatsit

FannyCann · 09/03/2023 14:13

Marvellous news. I'm in a particularly shitty mood today thanks to certain work related issues so this has really cheered me up.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/03/2023 14:20

Just looked it up and saw. Am very pleased.

WhisperingAutistic · 09/03/2023 14:32

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 14:09

Yeah what's the women's rights song sang to auld whatsit

"For womens rights are human rights..."

Ridiculous responses to JK Rowling tweeting about equalities act petition.
Grammarnut · 09/03/2023 14:56

Brilliant. Finally there. Not only six of us after all!

bellinisurge · 09/03/2023 14:58

Write to your MPs - tell them to write to the chair of thePetitions Committee to get this in place.

ScrollingLeaves · 09/03/2023 15:08

bellinisurge · Today 14:58
Write to your MPs - tell them to write to the chair of thePetitions Committee to get this in place

This is very important.

Everyone needs to spread this message.

But first, can anyone come up with armoured points based in evidence and law to bolster the letter ( lots of people have captured MPs) so the MP will take it seriously? and so that also, if there is a debate, enough people who actually understand the issues legally take part? (Whoever wrote the “response” after the first 10,000 signatures didn’t.)

Otherwise it could be a tick-box debate that comes along and is over as nothing.

Ourladycheesusedatum · 09/03/2023 17:18

Rainbowshit · 09/03/2023 12:49

99,842

I think @Ourladycheesusedatum is going to win with 13.12.

I genuinely would send you some tunnocks tea cakes but I would not advise giving out your address to strangers on the internet.

How about I buy some and eat them for you? Deal?!

I see I won, first time in a long time I've won anything. Help yourselves to my tunnock's tea cakes, even boiled who I see snaffled some already. I've got better foodstuff, looks like I'll be eating a whole (sharing hah ) pack of caramel buttons. After my egg mayo sandwich.

Go us, let's not stop here, the more who sign the less it can be ignored.

Rainbowshit · 09/03/2023 17:22

Better foodstuffs than tunnocks tea cakes?!?!! 😮Sacrilege.

I'll put some in the food bank collection in my local supermarket in honour of your win and jk Rowling without whom we might not have made it over the line.

I'd like to think jk reads these threads. If so, jk, you are an absolute legend. 👑

Ourladycheesusedatum · 09/03/2023 17:35

Rainbowshit · 09/03/2023 17:22

Better foodstuffs than tunnocks tea cakes?!?!! 😮Sacrilege.

I'll put some in the food bank collection in my local supermarket in honour of your win and jk Rowling without whom we might not have made it over the line.

I'd like to think jk reads these threads. If so, jk, you are an absolute legend. 👑

Do you know what, I think I'll do the same. I've just seen a case of them on Amazon, I'll order them to go to the local food bank. If anyone gets the reference even better.

Added a case of tunnocks snowballs too.
Go us, go jk

Blister · 09/03/2023 21:49

Happy women's day everyone! 🤗

Faffertea · 09/03/2023 22:16

Hallelujah!! Thank you JKR again!

I have eaten a Tunnock’s caramel wafer as no tea cakes in the cupboard.

And frankly they’re just much nicer.

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 22:22

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4759614-100000-signatures-on-the-equality-act-what-next?reply=124514673

Whilst your eating your tunnocks could you pop onto the thread above follow the link that Maya posts and let your MP know you signed the petition.

Thank you x

Currently 102,105 signatures

wantmorenow · 09/03/2023 22:32

My MP is Jamie Wallis 😩

Faffertea · 09/03/2023 22:38

@Boiledbeetle
Thanks for the prompt, I hadn’t seen Maya’s post/thread.
I’ve emailed my MP and reminded her that when I last wrote to her warning what we knew would happen with Self ID she sent a load of that will never happen back. And now she’s voted against the GRR bill in Scotland. Ive asked her whether her opinion changes with the prevailing winds of her party rather than her scruples or whether she’s now looked into the issue and realised she was wrong.

I won’t hold my breath for a reply.

JanesLittleGirl · 09/03/2023 22:39

I'm looking forward to eating a Tunnocks tea cake for the very first time. Just ordered some online.

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 22:46

wantmorenow · 09/03/2023 22:32

My MP is Jamie Wallis 😩

Well....someone has to be those constituents💐

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 22:48

JanesLittleGirl · 09/03/2023 22:39

I'm looking forward to eating a Tunnocks tea cake for the very first time. Just ordered some online.

Are you sure. It's like hard drugs once you've had that first taste of sweet sweet (very sweet) bliss and seen the edges of heaven itself there is no going back.

Save yourself, update the delivery address to my house.

Turnipworkharder · 09/03/2023 23:04
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Great news

Boiledbeetle · 09/03/2023 23:21

Anyone want to relive the moment???? Video of THE MOMENT..

twitter.com/FionneOrlander/status/1633821110922883074?s=19

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