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Get paid for drugged sex!

112 replies

mach2 · 08/03/2023 09:01

Well, this is a bit special:

A BBC documentary has sparked outrage after a sex therapist suggested men who have a fetish about sex with unconscious partners should be able to pay women to be drugged

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11831307/We-Need-Talk-Bill-Cosby-Sex-therapist-calls-women-drugged-money.html

Is it me or is the world getting madder?

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FourTeaFallOut · 08/03/2023 10:17

Jesus, there's just no upper limit for the level of grim women are expected to tolerate so men can "get their kink out", is there?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/03/2023 10:19

Datun · 08/03/2023 10:02

and certainly musings of this kind should not be presented uncritically on the BBC

This.

There are always going to be wackos advocating on behalf of some men's endless, and totally illegal, perversions, but to give it even a hint of legitimacy by hosting a 'discussion' on it?

They should be ashamed. And the whole country should be asking which person, specifically, signed off on it.

Yes

i’m increasingly all about the free speech

I haven’t seen this programme, but if having this wacko spouting her bullshit contributes to the narrative, well fine

but this sure as hell ain’t universally accepted opinion or self evidently correct

if the BBC are going to present something like this it needs to be robustly challenged in the same segment

Datun · 08/03/2023 10:20

Does she think sex with children is okay, as long as they 'consent' too?

And would the same tosser who signed this off, sign that off as well? In the name of sex positivity?

Palmfrond · 08/03/2023 10:23

Her(??) website is a trip!

Aparently she identifies as “superfat” and has denounced “thinness” as a white supremacist beauty ideal.

Wawa-weewa!

Faffertea · 08/03/2023 10:25

Ok great.
We all know being unconscious is just like being asleep, no risk of harm there.
And men who get off on this shit, sorry, have this completely harmless kink, will definitely respect women’s boundaries and not harm them in any way.

Fucking moronic.
And this person is a professional??

EsmaCannonball · 08/03/2023 10:27

Looking at this person's website one could infer that there is money to be made in pressing right wing buttons. Promote yourself as the living embodiment of the most goady, extremist, trolling Twitter thread imaginable and money will get flung at you. Controversy is the jackpot, never mind how many vulnerable women you have to trample over to get the cash. The question is, why did the BBC think this person had anything of value to offer other than televisual clickbait?

ehb102 · 08/03/2023 10:43

Vomit.

A sex therapist turning sex into something you do to someone rather than something you do with someone is shockingly bad at their job.

Aweebitpainful · 08/03/2023 10:44

No therapist worth their weight would ever say this drivel… let alone think it.

LakeTiticaca · 08/03/2023 10:46

Some people may be shocked to learn what some women ( and men) will do for £££££
There's some pretty weird stuff going on out there

Palmfrond · 08/03/2023 10:46

EsmaCannonball · 08/03/2023 10:27

Looking at this person's website one could infer that there is money to be made in pressing right wing buttons. Promote yourself as the living embodiment of the most goady, extremist, trolling Twitter thread imaginable and money will get flung at you. Controversy is the jackpot, never mind how many vulnerable women you have to trample over to get the cash. The question is, why did the BBC think this person had anything of value to offer other than televisual clickbait?

Nailed it.

DrBlackbird · 08/03/2023 10:51

Not that I’m defending the BBC, but it was an American 4 part documentary made by someone called Walter Kamau Bell that the BBC bought. W. Kamau Bell said he made it to show how Crosby was enabled by his fame and benign persona.

Now yes, you’d think some BBC editor watched the whole series to make a judgement call on its suitability for a uk audience but not sure it’s wholly fair to criticise the BBC for this one crazy person?

Should the BBC not shown a series exposing Crosby because of this one woman? Why Bell included her is anyone’s guess.

DevilinaCardigan · 08/03/2023 10:51

Jesus women are just holes to these people. Makes me feel sick.

Sweetmotherofallthatisholyabov · 08/03/2023 10:58

In an idyllic world no one would fantasize about sex with an unconscious person because in an idyllic world we'd all respect each other. Should some men offer to take performance inhibiting drugs and then allow other men beat them up?

DrBlackbird · 08/03/2023 11:01

*Cosby as in Bill and not Crosby as in Bing obviously….

Ourladycheesusedatum · 08/03/2023 11:08

DrBlackbird · 08/03/2023 10:51

Not that I’m defending the BBC, but it was an American 4 part documentary made by someone called Walter Kamau Bell that the BBC bought. W. Kamau Bell said he made it to show how Crosby was enabled by his fame and benign persona.

Now yes, you’d think some BBC editor watched the whole series to make a judgement call on its suitability for a uk audience but not sure it’s wholly fair to criticise the BBC for this one crazy person?

Should the BBC not shown a series exposing Crosby because of this one woman? Why Bell included her is anyone’s guess.

Almost certain the BBC can edit stuff. They could have edited this out.

HerbertChops · 08/03/2023 11:09

Nope.

This is a rape fetish. I think we should drug the men with the fetish so they're unconscious and can't rape anyone. Problem solved. No need to involve women in this.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 08/03/2023 11:13

Also advertises as ‘the fat therapist’……(sic)

previous statements seem to indicate a certain degree of .? Attention seeking? As well.

Get paid for drugged sex!
IcakethereforeIam · 08/03/2023 11:15

I hope she never volunteers. It'd be quite dangerous for her, I imagine. Oh, no wait, she probably meant other women.

NutellaEllaElla · 08/03/2023 11:20

God I hate it when lazy producers wheel out any old crank who spouts harmful blocks and besmirches the name of Psychotherapy. It's so damaging!

NotConcerning · 08/03/2023 11:22

This is just a logical progression of current anti-shame, sex positivity. Nothing is out of bounds or shameful as long as there is ‘consent’. Any fetish or kink is a private matter and anyone willing to indulge or supply ‘the goods’ ie. the body, body part, experience etc. is exercising their free will - damn it, in our fxxed up world it could be deemed an act of Feminism.

Coming soon to the BBC are ‘anti sex-shame’ campaigners like Reed Amber - she recently did a BBC Presenters course at Salford - and has featured in the Guardian Weekend Magazine. Her philosophy is that we should all be more educated and open about our kinks and fetishes. She hosts a podcast where she cheerily speaks about visiting a BDSM couple and being asphyxiated and made to cry - CNC (consensual non-consensual sex) and a tickle fetish are her own favourite things and she ‘monetises’ her tickle and foot fetishes via Only Fans and meet-ups.

She’s an immensely likeable woman and some of her content on mental health issues is great. But I am just aghast at the dissociation that goes on in her world. And that she then proselytises to her followers. She fully admits that she had early exposure to porn, but rather than examine how that may have impacted on her own sexuality and her mental health, she decides to perpetuate the idea that this kind of sexual freedom is ‘healthy’.

I'm only mentioning her, because this sex therapist seems to be from the same school and has also had her ideas helpfully broadcast by the BBC. And these ideas are seeping in to young women’s lives through relatively mainstream social media channels too. Reed was advertising Emma bed-in-a-box mattresses on her Instagram recently - complete with the strap-line “My bed is my safe space especially when it comes to pushing limits with kink”. Anything to sell a product.

And sex with a ‘consensually’ drugged woman is helping a man with a fetish, get what he wants and have no obstacle put in his way. And the woman is the willing ‘service provider’ just doing her job -‘sex work is work’.

Mainstream culture is buying into all of this and it’s terrifying.

Toseland · 08/03/2023 11:38

On the BBC?! I'm so close to getting rid of my TV license. The thing is that because of this 'great idea' presented on the BBC a woman, especially a prostituted woman somewhere will be pressured into doing this. It's utterly sick.

Octopusmittens · 08/03/2023 11:40

What a repulsive individual

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 08/03/2023 11:54

AlisonDonut · 08/03/2023 10:07

So not one person in the chain of 'research - prescreening - interview - film - direct - retake - edit - review - publish' thought 'hang on a minute...what are we saying here'?

Exactly!

I think they are saying oo women come grab some sex positive $¥€£ and be paid as an alive-expectant wank sock for money….
Or snuff movie genre.

Quoting "Andrea" Long Chu;

"...distilling femaleness to its barest essentials—an open mouth, an expectant asshole, blank eyes."

Get paid for drugged sex!
mach2 · 08/03/2023 12:01

The vibe I get from it is "Poor old Bill, if only he had a sex-positive outlet".

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IcakethereforeIam · 08/03/2023 12:06

Yes, he's the real victim here.

Said no sane person anywhere. I don't know how they sleep at night (drugs?), there's something missing in them.

It's depressing that it's women, all too often, who are pushing this.

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