Journalist Dominique Samuels has posted video of one of their events: https://twitter.com/dominiquetaegon/status/1630948003962912768?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg
Which features men gyrating and hanging from the ceiling surrounded by a crowd of clueless women and their babies.
I would say it's NSFW but it's apparently safe for babies so have a watch.
Here's a reddux article:
https://reduxx.info/uk-sold-out-rave-for-babies-featuring-drag-queens-prompts-outrage/
Since the video went viral, the company has taken down its website and Facebook and made their Instagram private. I wonder why?
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Caba Baba Rave - take your baby to watch nearly naked men in fetish gear
Clymene · 02/03/2023 09:18
RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 04/03/2023 12:57
Then there is something wrong with those parents
even aside from the gross stupidity
RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 04/03/2023 12:57
Then there is something wrong with those parents
even aside from the gross stupidity
YetAnotherSpartacus · 04/03/2023 13:13
What happened to the AIBU thread? Was it deleted?
Igneococcus · 04/03/2023 05:31
Churches now, and schools.
"Drag is new front in culture wars
A 300% rise in school, library and church acts has alarmed many parents"
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ab2c81fe-b9f9-11ed-89e2-a4c715f4739d?shareToken=50639a0ac88575dd73be823e362e5c8b
PorcelinaV · 04/03/2023 13:52
Not that this is even a trans issue but...
I think this forum is indeed a bit of an "anti trans activism" echo chamber, but it's not like it's the fault of the members. As far as I know, this place allows open discussion and both sides can make their case.
The problem for the trans activist side, is that they can't just come here and throw insults and make threats, because the forum is moderated for that. And maybe their ideas often can't stand up to scrutiny so they don't like being on a forum for the purposes of debate.
So I'm thinking that their own online spaces are "echo chambers" because they censor the fuck out of them and don't allow dissent. If this place is also a bit of an echo chamber, it's because trans-activism can't survive that well in the light of open debate.
But maybe I'm wrong. Does anyone know forums on the trans activism side that don't censor discussion?
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Icenice · 04/03/2023 11:53
This.
It's the Mumsnet anti trans echo chamber publicly shaming and piling on to the two mum organisers of this event, that has very different costumes for shows with older children.
Seasonofthewitch83 · 02/03/2023 16:14
Sorry, just jumping back on to say so far this has been an echo chamber. I have been the only voice to say that IMO, I am fine with this event - already followed them on SM and did not see any safeguarding issues (and nor presumably has anyone else until....now.)
Please point out where you have been shut down or shamed?
Datun · 02/03/2023 16:06
There's also the deliberate shaming of people. Even on this thread, insulting women for saying it's not appropriate.
To me, it's a tactic. It's designed to shut down speculation.
JustStopOilyPoshKids · 02/03/2023 15:51
It's people who believe they have excellent boundaries cos they are so aware of consent and risk that often have the crappest ones. I deffo saw a lot of this on the kink scene. There's a mind yr own business, anything goes as long as consent is involved ethos. That fucks about with yr instinctive senses of something being off.
I know of folk from this scene that thought nothing of taking their kids to poly picnic meet ups in the school hols. Arranged on Fetlife.
You can guarantee that the assumed ignorance/ innocence/ indifference of babies is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this babarave context. Part of believing that all meaning is derived subjectively. So near naked bodies etc aren't the problem. It's the cultural reading we have of it. Babies obviously know nothing about sex, therefore it cannot be sexual to them.
Basically it is people with a piss poor grasp of boundaries themselves believing they are super chill, open minded and progressive.
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