Humza Yousaf says trans rapist Isla Bryson should have right to self-identify as female

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The favourite to replace Nicola Sturgeon has said Isla Bryson should have the right to self-identify as female despite arguing that the transgender rapist is "at it".

Humza Yousaf argued that it would be unfair to oppose Ms Sturgeon's self-ID gender laws "because of one despicable individual" whom he said had tried to "manipulate" Scotland's prison system.

Although the laws have been blocked by the UK Government and have never been implemented, he argued this would be akin to "rolling back" transgender rights.

Mr Yousaf argued the current system, under which people must get a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria, should be abolished as "99.9 per cent of trans men and women do not commit crime."

Pressed if the double rapist should be allowed to self-ID as female, he said: "Isla Bryson is, of course, a horrible, despicable individual but of course the law applies to people, everybody, without fear and without favour."

uk.news.yahoo.com/humza-yousaf-says-trans-rapist-202007031.html

Obviously the man is an arse but I actually think this bit is quite helpful to overtyl say: "Pressed if the double rapist should be allowed to self-ID as female, he said: "Isla Bryson is, of course, a horrible, despicable individual but of course the law applies to people, everybody, without fear and without favour."

Because the law does apply to everyone in this way, hence if TWAW and a TW is a self-identifying concept, then Isla IS a woman. NS silly attempt to make out that someone everyone can self-ID except Isla is just showing the massive flaws in the ideology that women have been highlighting for years (and getting abused because of their concerns).

If TWAW then males will be in ALL female spaces. If you think Isla should not be locked up with women, then you don't think TWAW, no matter how you try and spin that.

It helps to be clear about what people are really saying.

What an idiot

Well said, LK.
Do we know how the judge arrived at the ridiculous tariff in this case? I hope that the leniency is successfully appealed.

he said: "Isla Bryson is, of course, a horrible, despicable individual but of course the law applies to people, everybody, without fear and without favour."

He's right on that, which is why the GRC needs to be thrown in the bin and the Eq Act tightened up. Womanhood is not a prize for good behaviour.

I expect he would argue that the logical conclusion to his comment above is that all violent TWAW, without exception and should be housed with female prisoners. I'd like him to explain just how many women he thinks are acceptable collateral damage in pursuit of genderism and why supporting something that plainly (and in many cases physically) harms women isn't sheer bigotry.

But the proportion of self-proclaimed trans people who are criminals or indeed despicable individuals isn't what matters for prisons.

What matters for prisons is the proportion of self-identified transwomen in prison who are criminals or "despicable individuals". Obviously 100% of them are criminals; and statistics from MoJ (UK not Scotland but no reason to suppose it's very different committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/ ) says that approx 60% of them are also sex offenders which presumably makes them "despicable indivduals" and more importantly a danger to women prisoners (and possibly their children)

So either self id has to stop at the prison gates, or we can't have self id full stop.

So either self id has to stop at the prison gates, or we can't have self id full stop.

Well the latter is preferable because the alternative is that violent TW is in male estate because self ID doesn't count in prisons. Violent TW is then released but can self ID into a woman's refuge & go into any other space reserved for women to gain access.

My worry here is that they will try to redefine the law to say that rape is other forms of sexual assault to further validate that rape is not only carried out by men. We need to oppose this as it lumps male and female sexual violence together and blurs statistics

Very good point @lifeturnsonadime

Slightly off-topic, but when those violent TW come out of prison it is all too easy for them to disappear without a trace: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64624921

well how does that work when the Gender Bill in Scotland allows anyone to change their name legally with minimal process?

It's so ill thought through I want to scream.

Bryson has not only been known as Isla to try to get access to vulnerable women, he went by the name of Annie to violate women on a beauty course at Ayreshire College .

Women just don't matter, one jot.

I'm coming to the belief that he doesn't want the role and the top brass in the SNP don't actually want independence to occur. No one who was serious about governance and self-determination would have gone with the GRR; it was inevitable that it contained a political and cultural bomb that would explode at some point.

@ColdMeg
I think GRR backfired big time.
They wanted to use it and the bottle return scheme to show WM as stopping Scotland doing its own thing and why Scots should vote for independence.
It's another Independence at all cost.

The Top Brass ie Nicola did not bank on Isla Bryson, tattoos, wig and those pink leggings to charge on to everyone's telly and every newspaper.
Timing the looks what else could he had to make a mockery of GRR and show up what it really means.

The timing was superb and agree on the visual

Isn't it the case that misogyny is not listed as a hate crime in Scotland but probably transphobia is? So a transwoman could complain about misogyny but not women as a sex?

The contempt of women in this era is breath-taking.

Misogyny isn't a hate crime in Scotland, England or Wales.

And yet it is probably the most common type of expressed hate.

Yes the police stated that if it was, they'd never do anything else.

Plus it gives them an out to completely ignore all hatred of women. But hey ho. Not like we pay taxes or anything. Oh, hang on...

Wings today pointing out flaws in the upcoming SNP leadership election.

Not to mention the institutional misogyny in the police as an organisation, which would mean they'd spend most of their time trying to keep up with their own issues never mind incidents happening outside of the police.

But great, isn't it? That crime's too frequent and widespread, it'll just have to go on happening unchecked.

Reminds me of the Free Man on the Land movement. They declare themselves as such and think therefore laws do not apply to them as they do everyone else. Difference is in their case the government do not recognise their identity or care about pandering to it.

I think his chances of being elected are decreasing by the minute as I think this is such a significant issue an has been so high profile.

Let the rapists identify away in their own male prison then.

Agree but and happy to be corrected, is this not why there was initially so much cloak and dagger around the voting to keep it secret and no one would be allowed to talk about it? Basically 'he's been elected cos we say so, actual votes matter not!' ?

There were a few threads about Bryson so I wasn't sure where to post this, anyway

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/isla-bryon-getting-special-treatment-30164541

Quite surprised he's still maintaining the pretence, to be honest.

Maybe he really is a transwoman.