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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tory councilor has trans women on the brain

67 replies

invalide · 27/02/2023 14:03

Does anyone else feel the messaging here is a little on the nose I mean imagine if the councilor had exclaimed "A black woman" or "A gay woman" with the same stomach-sinking, intrepid sense as she did "A trans woman." in response to seeing someone washing her hands and leaving...
Also "any pub in the country" is rather creating panic at something that isn't there...

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 27/02/2023 15:39

Sophie does not come across well in that Twitter thread. No Sophie you are not being ‘sexually harassed’ by the Daily Mail story. 🙄

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 27/02/2023 15:43

Yes, the OP has succeeded in drawing my attention to the fact that this chap who invaded a pub women’s toilet is a fucking loon on twitter who thinks all women look the same

so if that was what you were going for, achievement unlocked OP 👍

TheBestUsernamesAreGone · 27/02/2023 15:50

Is Sophie refering to Sophie as a "penis woman"? Is that the preferred term now?

GailBlancheViola · 27/02/2023 15:55

ClaphamSouth · 27/02/2023 14:27

Christ, the rank misogyny dripping from that twitter thread Confused "c*s women look the same to me" - imagine if that was said about any other group.

Quite.

But in a bizarre way the person is admitting that TW look nothing like women and that would be because they are male.

nilsmousehammer · 27/02/2023 15:55

Isn't the victim blaming always fun? So much of it about.

Male: Does something to woman that is highly inappropriate and unacceptable or distressing to a woman
Woman: shares their experience with others
Male: I am being victimised/harassed by the woman talking about my abuse of her!

It's like bursting into tears and demanding compensation for your distress because someone asked you to stop repeatedly punching them on the nose.

KatMcBundleFace · 27/02/2023 15:58

Lads shake after they've had a piss, so I'm assuming Sophie got triggered by the " we'll have to shake"
And then behaved true to form.

userno777 · 27/02/2023 15:58

Assuming the OP is a troll. No other reason for this post.

Brefugee · 27/02/2023 16:03

Assuming the interaction is as reported in the Mail, and assuming that Sophie tweeting about is the trans woman involved: eh?

No names (apart from the woman reporting the story) are mentioned. So any trans woman could make this claim. They aren't being "outed" by the Tory woman or the paper, they have "outed" themselves. And if they did say what the paper reports? fuck that shit, you weirdo.

If the interaction was not as reported in the Mail and penis wasn't mentioned (maybe "jeans" I'd not thought of that and it makes sense) the same applies but bloody hell, Tory Councillor, WTF? stop it. (and the "outing" thing? same. Nobody outed anyone but the woman making the claim)

TBH if all interactions with trans women in toilets was, "we were in the cubicles, washed our hands, made small talk about there being no towels, shook our hands dry and then did that 'after you' 'no after you' thing when we left" I'd be ok with that.

KatMcBundleFace · 27/02/2023 16:03

That thread doesn't make sense.

"The stall I went in had no loo roll, so when I stepped out I had to say to the cis woman who was coming out of the other stall that I needed to go in there for that"

If Sophie wanted toilet roll, then went to the loo, surely the woman would have finished washing her hands and would have left before Soph finished their poo.

Grammarnut · 27/02/2023 16:05

ClaphamSouth · 27/02/2023 14:27

Christ, the rank misogyny dripping from that twitter thread Confused "c*s women look the same to me" - imagine if that was said about any other group.

Not just the 'cis' women bit, either, the whole thread drips misogyny and contempt for women and their right to be safe when they are vulnerable. The outpouring of sympathy for the TiM is utterly sickening, as though he were the victim, not the woman upset by a man in what is supposed to be a woman's space. I also do not buy wipe 'on my jeans' - jeans and penis are such obvious homophones.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 27/02/2023 16:14

Even if Sophie isn’t making the whole thing up I don’t know how Sophie can be so certain it was her mishearing rather than Sophie making a Freudian slip.

donquixotedelamancha · 27/02/2023 16:15

imagine if the councilor had exclaimed "A black woman" or "A gay woman" with the same stomach-sinking, intrepid sense as she did "A trans woman."

WTF are you on about? A black/gay woman wouldn't announce they were wiping their hands on their dick.

Hotcuppatea · 27/02/2023 16:20

He should stay out of the women's toilets then.

TheBiologyStupid · 27/02/2023 16:23

It would be interesting to know from the councillor whether the TW they encountered was indeed wearing jeans.

ArabellaScott · 27/02/2023 16:31

Stay out of women's spaces, mate.

Tory councilor has trans women on the brain
Walrussy · 27/02/2023 16:32

Ah, so female councillor was either hysterical and imagined "penis" or deliberately made a false accusation? Women, eh? Sorry, I mean "cis women, eh?" Because that 3 letter word takes it from misogyny to left-wing, righteous progress.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 27/02/2023 16:33

NGL, Sophie doesn’t seem very ladylike…

Tory councilor has trans women on the brain
Tory councilor has trans women on the brain
Tory councilor has trans women on the brain
Tory councilor has trans women on the brain
Tory councilor has trans women on the brain
CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 27/02/2023 16:34

Sophie shouted at KJK so much yesterday, that Sophie is struggling to speak today…

Tory councilor has trans women on the brain
Tory councilor has trans women on the brain
ZeldaFighter · 27/02/2023 16:35

The transwoman is 6' tall. In what universe would they be under threat in the men's toilets??? Do they think Mike Tyson is in there???

I'm 5'2". So it's OK for a transwoman to flee the toilets for people of their own birth sex but it wouldn't be scary for me to be in my own sex's toilets with them???

MissPollysFitDolly · 27/02/2023 16:36

LakeTiticaca · 27/02/2023 15:39

@cunningartificer penis does not sound like pants .
Penis sounds like penis.

Perhaps with a slightly nasal American accent, which would explain why it's been suggested in the first place.

SinnerBoy · 27/02/2023 16:41

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · Today 16:33

NGL, Sophie doesn’t seem very ladylike…

Well, you do get the odd ranting female psycho...

SinnerBoy · 27/02/2023 16:43

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · Today 16:34

Sophie shouted at KJK so much yesterday, that Sophie is struggling to speak today…

And don't forget, in your link, Sophie also exhausted Sophieself, as them was fighting cops all day. None of which was caught on camera, for some reason. It can only mean some sort of Tory Deepstate Plot!

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/02/2023 16:47

Brefugee · 27/02/2023 16:03

Assuming the interaction is as reported in the Mail, and assuming that Sophie tweeting about is the trans woman involved: eh?

No names (apart from the woman reporting the story) are mentioned. So any trans woman could make this claim. They aren't being "outed" by the Tory woman or the paper, they have "outed" themselves. And if they did say what the paper reports? fuck that shit, you weirdo.

If the interaction was not as reported in the Mail and penis wasn't mentioned (maybe "jeans" I'd not thought of that and it makes sense) the same applies but bloody hell, Tory Councillor, WTF? stop it. (and the "outing" thing? same. Nobody outed anyone but the woman making the claim)

TBH if all interactions with trans women in toilets was, "we were in the cubicles, washed our hands, made small talk about there being no towels, shook our hands dry and then did that 'after you' 'no after you' thing when we left" I'd be ok with that.

‘She’ wasn’t wearing jeans though. Maybe ‘she ‘ was going home to find ‘her’ jeans and wipe ‘her’ hands in them?

🔔 that’s me pulling the other one

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 27/02/2023 16:50

Here’s a few more photos from Sophie’s twitter, including one from the tube that features a fist wrapped with metal chain.

Emoji edits are Sophie’s own, apart from the clowns. No one on Mumsnet wants to see Sophie’s awful brown briefs…

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 27/02/2023 16:52

You can here Sophie’s accent here:

(skip to 0.42 for the talking to start)