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The "public" didn't like the misgendering of Sam Smith

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mumda · 24/02/2023 09:41

@hayleywjourno tweeted: "Not Bob Geldof repeatedly misgendering Sam Smith on live telly and Holly and Phil not correcting him…" @ellsworthy replied: "Ugh. It's so easy not to do." But @petewo89 argued: "Probably was he/him when working with Bob. It's not like he's doing it maliciously."

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/tv/itv-morning-viewers-disappointed-holly-26301863

Yes someone with journo in their twitter handle sounds so like a member of the public.

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RoseslnTheHospital · 24/02/2023 09:50

Reporting what two people on Twitter thought is really scraping the barrel for an article. I think interrupting Geldof to "correct" his use of pronouns would have been ridiculous given that he was there mainly to talk about the recent death of his band mate. The conversation about SSmith seems to have been tangential and historical, a decade ago.

Youpillock · 24/02/2023 09:52

Just for clarity, this member of the public couldn't give a shiney shite about misgendering Sam Smith.

Squiblet · 24/02/2023 09:56

So ... journalists aren't people, then?

ErrolTheDragon · 24/02/2023 09:59

I wonder if this journo would like to comment on what 'members of the public' think of Smith 'correcting' the word 'fisherman' to 'fisherthem'?Grin

MichelleScarn · 24/02/2023 10:01

So a discussion that wasn't even about SS and was a tribute to someone else who has recently died, ends op centering SS?
His publicist must be very busy and on amazing money.
The 'public' I know are all bored with the vacuous, attention-seeking, victimhood of Ss.

ReadersD1gest · 24/02/2023 10:03

The public couldn't give a toss about Sam Smith's pronouns. Tedious twat.
Both the journo and Sam Smith.

RoseslnTheHospital · 24/02/2023 10:06

The journo is the Senior Social Media Editor for Reach Nationals which includes the Daily Mirror and the Daily Star, so not a general member of the public, no. This journo's job relates to putting out content on social media.

TrashyPanda · 24/02/2023 10:07

Gender is a made-up concept.

it’s not real, like sex is.

AgathaX · 24/02/2023 10:13

This member of the public couldn't actually give a shit about SS so called gender. He's an attention seeking idiot and I'm sick of seeing his bloody face everywhere at the moment.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 24/02/2023 10:14

99% of the public comments on the story my local paper ran were not at all disappointed, quite the opposite.

Squiblet · 24/02/2023 10:28

RoseslnTheHospital · 24/02/2023 10:06

The journo is the Senior Social Media Editor for Reach Nationals which includes the Daily Mirror and the Daily Star, so not a general member of the public, no. This journo's job relates to putting out content on social media.

That Twitter account is her personal one, though, and she's allowed to have a point of view. She's not remotely claiming to speak for the wider public.

Unless you think she believes that the public are clamouring en masse for a "Kylie x Charli x City Girls collab immediately please".

RoseslnTheHospital · 24/02/2023 10:33

Of course not, and obviously that's her personal twitter feed. But she has her job role and employer in her Twitter bio, which makes it clear what her vested interests might be.

And either way, this "news" article mentions precisely two twitter users who were disappointed about Geldof's use of pronouns. Two! Such a big issue.

dworky · 24/02/2023 10:33

Remember, the grievance gerbils are prolific.

GoodChat · 24/02/2023 10:36

ErrolTheDragon · 24/02/2023 09:59

I wonder if this journo would like to comment on what 'members of the public' think of Smith 'correcting' the word 'fisherman' to 'fisherthem'?Grin

He sounded like he had a speech impediment when he was saying that.

LivMumsnet · 24/02/2023 10:37

We've now moved this one over to our Sex and Gender discussion topic. Thanks all.

LakeTiticaca · 24/02/2023 10:41

The public are probably slightly more concerned about the cost of living, Ukraine, energy prices, NHS waiting times, babies trapped in earthquakes in Turkey/Syria, climate emergency........

Birdsweepsin · 24/02/2023 10:42

Sham Smith

29052022J · 24/02/2023 10:43

ErrolTheDragon · 24/02/2023 09:59

I wonder if this journo would like to comment on what 'members of the public' think of Smith 'correcting' the word 'fisherman' to 'fisherthem'?Grin

Stop, this keeps killing me 😂 Imagine actual fisherman who go out in trawlers for weeks at a time hearing this!

29052022J · 24/02/2023 10:43

LakeTiticaca · 24/02/2023 10:41

The public are probably slightly more concerned about the cost of living, Ukraine, energy prices, NHS waiting times, babies trapped in earthquakes in Turkey/Syria, climate emergency........

Sam Smith is concerned about fisherthem

mydogisthebest · 24/02/2023 10:46

This member of the public wasn't bothered in the slightest. SS is a HE

Chersfrozenface · 24/02/2023 10:46

I have an acquaintance who was in Fisherthem's Friends and Fisherthem's Friends 2: One and All.

Off topic a bit, but I have to get in my brushes with fame.

SinnerBoy · 24/02/2023 10:48

Hang on, if he's non-binary, he's neither male nor female, so how can he have a gender and be "misgendered"?

FinGizz · 24/02/2023 10:59

What topic was this thread originally in?

Wonder why it was shifted Confused

RoseslnTheHospital · 24/02/2023 11:03

It was in the other Feminism: Chat section. You know, the one with all the tumbleweed and cobwebs.

Helleofabore · 24/02/2023 11:07

Why has this one been moved? It is about Sam Smith? This is not a feminism issue!

Sorry OP I am not questioning you! I am questioning MNHQ though.