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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

STURGEON IS QUITTING

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Clymene · 15/02/2023 09:59

Just seen on BBC headlines

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RedToothBrush · 16/02/2023 13:38

And, given my previous profession, I do have to say that Comic Sans is the work of the devil and is the work of dark forces.

Its presence on primary school or nursery artwork of any kind should be written into law as a criminal offence.

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2023 13:46

𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖋𝖔𝖗𝖈𝖊𝖘 𝖍𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝖐𝖎𝖉𝖓𝖆𝖕𝖕𝖊𝖉 𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖈 𝖘𝖆𝖓𝖘

scratchedbymycat · 16/02/2023 13:48

I liked Farron too, and think he shouldn't have resigned.

The difference between him and Forbes (as far as I can tell so far), is he explicitly acknowledged that he personally was a Christian, but that he had to represent the interests of a broad group of people. I felt he could separate the two - personal vs public.

All I've seen with Forbes is an explicit absolute statement that her church and faith is central to her existence, and that she has to be honest about that and people must know that.

She wasn't in favour of GRR, but was that because of women's rights, or because 'God made men men and women women'? I don't know. I'm not especially supportive of the 'God' approach to this because 'God' is also used to define same sex relationships as an abomination. And justify women staying in restrictive roles etc.

I don't know enough about her to know if she is like Farron. And I don't think she's driven by hate and prejudice like Trump. But the Bible, taken literally, is EVERYTHING in the Free Church. Way more so than with liberal Christians.

Signalbox · 16/02/2023 13:49

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2023 13:46

𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖋𝖔𝖗𝖈𝖊𝖘 𝖍𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝖐𝖎𝖉𝖓𝖆𝖕𝖕𝖊𝖉 𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖈 𝖘𝖆𝖓𝖘

😳😬😵😱

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2023 13:51

I don't know much about Kate Forbes, but I have read that she is relatively libertarian in her views. As in, she believes in a plurality of views and a govt that represents that. I'm afraid I don't have the quote to hand, though.

Violetparis · 16/02/2023 13:54

If/when the SNP drop the GRR there is going to be a huge backlash from TRAs, will be interesting to see how they and those SNP MPs who are their most vocal supporters react.

Chersfrozenface · 16/02/2023 13:58

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2023 13:46

𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖋𝖔𝖗𝖈𝖊𝖘 𝖍𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝖐𝖎𝖉𝖓𝖆𝖕𝖕𝖊𝖉 𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖈 𝖘𝖆𝖓𝖘

😂

Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 16/02/2023 14:01

Tim Farron was also an evangelical christian and for him he was repeatedely harrassed by the media on the issue as if it was the only issue, but for him and most other Christians and people of other faiths too, principles of faith matter more than political expediency.
I understand how people can actually admire those that are firm in their principles even when they disagree with those principles. Kate Forbe has principles in a way that Boris never had, he would change like the weather for votes etc, you can be against something on a personal level and still treat people with dignity and fairness. Most people who have any kind of interaction with the public will be dealing with people whose lifestyles and beliefs they fundamentally disagree with regularly.
you can disagree with veganism, gay marriage, nuclear weapons, anti-vaxxers etc etc without treating people who believe in this things any less favourably. You can protect peoples rights whilst disagreeing with how they uphold that right. You can uphold someone's right to free speech without agreeing or indeed fundamentally disagreeing with what they say

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2023 14:16

😂

RedToothBrush · 16/02/2023 14:24

The Scotsman AT TheScotsman
Nicola Sturgeon has admitted she is "deeply" worried about women being put off entering politics due to the levels of abuse, misogyny and threats of sexual violence experienced on social media by those who "put their heads above the parapet".

FFS.
She didn't have an epiphany did she?

ResisterRex · 16/02/2023 14:25

RedToothBrush · 16/02/2023 14:24

The Scotsman AT TheScotsman
Nicola Sturgeon has admitted she is "deeply" worried about women being put off entering politics due to the levels of abuse, misogyny and threats of sexual violence experienced on social media by those who "put their heads above the parapet".

FFS.
She didn't have an epiphany did she?

Nah. That's self-pity.

teawamutu · 16/02/2023 14:27

Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 16/02/2023 14:01

Tim Farron was also an evangelical christian and for him he was repeatedely harrassed by the media on the issue as if it was the only issue, but for him and most other Christians and people of other faiths too, principles of faith matter more than political expediency.
I understand how people can actually admire those that are firm in their principles even when they disagree with those principles. Kate Forbe has principles in a way that Boris never had, he would change like the weather for votes etc, you can be against something on a personal level and still treat people with dignity and fairness. Most people who have any kind of interaction with the public will be dealing with people whose lifestyles and beliefs they fundamentally disagree with regularly.
you can disagree with veganism, gay marriage, nuclear weapons, anti-vaxxers etc etc without treating people who believe in this things any less favourably. You can protect peoples rights whilst disagreeing with how they uphold that right. You can uphold someone's right to free speech without agreeing or indeed fundamentally disagreeing with what they say

Exactly this. Look at Baroness Nicholson, who I disagree with on a fair few things but has been stalwart - and influential - in her support for women and children.

Also, font: the Star Wars one, obviously.

Chersfrozenface · 16/02/2023 14:31

So, a range of t shirts, all black but with different fonts, to choose from depending on my mood on any given day.

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2023 14:40
Signalbox · 16/02/2023 14:42

RedToothBrush · 16/02/2023 14:24

The Scotsman AT TheScotsman
Nicola Sturgeon has admitted she is "deeply" worried about women being put off entering politics due to the levels of abuse, misogyny and threats of sexual violence experienced on social media by those who "put their heads above the parapet".

FFS.
She didn't have an epiphany did she?

Funny her complete lack of support for the likes of Jo Cherry. Even though they disagreed politically you might have expected her to call out the rape threats she received.

Chersfrozenface · 16/02/2023 14:48

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2023 14:40

Snerk.

ResisterRex · 16/02/2023 14:51

Chersfrozenface · 16/02/2023 14:31

So, a range of t shirts, all black but with different fonts, to choose from depending on my mood on any given day.

THE DARK FORCES OF FONTGENDER

Chersfrozenface · 16/02/2023 14:54

ResisterRex · 16/02/2023 14:51

THE DARK FORCES OF FONTGENDER

And there's the title for my next high fantasy novel.

SinnerBoy · 16/02/2023 15:00

Chersfrozenface · Today 13:09

www.theguardian.com/food/2023/feb/15/the-truth-about-caffeine-how-coffee-really-affects-our-bodies

I no longer trust anything the Graun says.

I think the science section is still decent.

SinnerBoy · 16/02/2023 15:01

RedToothBrush · Today 14:24

Nicola Sturgeon has admitted she is "deeply" worried about women being put off entering politics due to the levels of abuse, misogyny and threats of sexual violence experienced on social media by those who "put their heads above the parapet".

Well, Nicola, don't you think it would be a good idea to tell your Trans Zealot chums to rein in a bit and reduce it massively? If not, why not?

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 16/02/2023 15:12

ArabellaScott · 16/02/2023 13:46

𝖉𝖆𝖗𝖐 𝖋𝖔𝖗𝖈𝖊𝖘 𝖍𝖆𝖛𝖊 𝖐𝖎𝖉𝖓𝖆𝖕𝖕𝖊𝖉 𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖎𝖈 𝖘𝖆𝖓𝖘

How did you do this???! Witchcraft!!

spiderplantparty · 16/02/2023 15:13

Yes, politicians seem to be very slow to call out the rape and death threats received by prominent women from TRAs.

Anactor · 16/02/2023 15:15

RedToothBrush · 16/02/2023 13:38

And, given my previous profession, I do have to say that Comic Sans is the work of the devil and is the work of dark forces.

Its presence on primary school or nursery artwork of any kind should be written into law as a criminal offence.

Comic Sans is an angelic type font which showers its blessings upon the dyslexic. Indeed, its effect on my sight reading is truly miraculous.

It is a bit over-used at primary level, though.

SidewaysOtter · 16/02/2023 15:22

Rainbowshit · 15/02/2023 11:05

Can't believe I'm sharing wings 🙄 but the rumour seems to be that the resignation is mainly due to the police investigation ramping up.

wingsoverscotland.com/the-ship-that-died-of-shame/

Out of interest, what's wrong with WOS?

BemusedDad · 16/02/2023 15:41

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command".