The Herold - hit piece claiming that GC feminists are led by ‘far right’

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 2023-02-15T09:32:42+00:00

Based on a few meagre incidents of a few far right individuals tagging on to large gatherings David Leask is of the opinion that feminists are being duped into support for the far right and ends the article with Nazi’s burning down libraries. https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/viewpoint/23312904.david-leask-far-right-hijacking-scotlands-trans-rights-row/

Rightsraptor · 15/02/2023 14:00

Not read it yet, but wasn't there a certain group who burned or advocated burning JKR's books?

It wasn't us.

DodoPatrol · 15/02/2023 14:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, it's definitely the Far Right who make me think it's a Bad Thing that half our friends' neurodiverse daughters have now announced they are boys.

Definitely Nazi tendencies that mean I dislike the effects of testosterone on young girls and women of 18-25. Yep, that'll be it.

Tedious chump.

nilsmousehammer · 15/02/2023 14:31

Lazy, lazy journalism.

Quick round of 'everyone I don't like is literally Hitler' and a quick question to the chap on 'so how do you feel the supporters of Trans activism, including all the MPs, are affected by the boards advocating death and rape threats to women, and the inclusion and alignment with committers of sexual violence and advocates of paedophilia being legalised?'

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 14:33

More pro-littering propaganda!

BanterEnjoyer · 15/02/2023 14:36

Being a woman and knowing that men who say they are women are men, is not a Left vs Right issue. All the muck that has been thrown at women is not sticking because the TRAs have gone to extremes and is not based in any biological reality. Just ignore them and keep fighting for women and girls.

Musomama1 · 15/02/2023 14:39

Some elements of genderism will attract far righters interest, and piss them off. That is inevitable.

GC feminists are separate to that.

The extreme of burning books / libraries etc I think you'll find is coming from TRAs! And that's just some of the more polite things they want to do. The GC side here is not known for doxxing and open invitations for violence.

OvaHere · 15/02/2023 14:43

It's feminists who have been talking about this issue for the last decade, some far longer than that. The right wing ( of all kinds) came pretty late to the discussion. Feminists aren't being led by anyone. We were here first by quite some margin.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 14:49

OvaHere · 15/02/2023 14:43

It's feminists who have been talking about this issue for the last decade, some far longer than that. The right wing ( of all kinds) came pretty late to the discussion. Feminists aren't being led by anyone. We were here first by quite some margin.

I wonder if extreme rightwingers are getting told off for agreeing with radical feminists? They need to tread very carefully - they won’t want to become guilt-by-associated with campaigns for full human rights for women 😬

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/02/2023 15:29

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 14:49

I wonder if extreme rightwingers are getting told off for agreeing with radical feminists? They need to tread very carefully - they won’t want to become guilt-by-associated with campaigns for full human rights for women 😬

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Good point!

nilsmousehammer · 15/02/2023 16:26

And the left certainly doesn't want full and equal human rights and access for women.

DemiColon · 15/02/2023 17:23

These people wouldn't know a member of the far right if they fell over one.

Onnabugeisha · 15/02/2023 17:30

It’s actually a good article as it is calling out the extremism on both sides.
The Nazi book burning was at the Berlin sexology institute that was researching transsexualism (old name for transgender), so it wasn’t an exaggeration but a relevant historical event.

nilsmousehammer · 15/02/2023 17:58

Extremism on both sides?

Activists threatening to kill and rape people, punching and assaulting, smoke bombs, kettling, screaming into the faces of babies, supporting the rape and assault of women in prisons, shouting for the conscienceless exclusion of vulnerable women, barbed wire wrapped baseball bats...

And women.... naming facts, saying biology exists and that women need males to respect female only spaces?

This is not extreme. It really isn't.

EfingNora · 15/02/2023 18:10

DemiColon · 15/02/2023 17:23

These people wouldn't know a member of the far right if they fell over one.

Or a feminist.

Thelnebriati · 15/02/2023 20:54

The both-siders have arrived early, put their towel on the deckchairs and fucked off as usual.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 15/02/2023 20:56

Thelnebriati · 15/02/2023 20:54

The both-siders have arrived early, put their towel on the deckchairs and fucked off as usual.

😃

justasking111 · 15/02/2023 22:42

It's a default insult these days. Suitable for every occasion. Its tedious, unoriginal and inaccurate

Onnabugeisha · 15/02/2023 22:54

nilsmousehammer · 15/02/2023 17:58

Extremism on both sides?

Activists threatening to kill and rape people, punching and assaulting, smoke bombs, kettling, screaming into the faces of babies, supporting the rape and assault of women in prisons, shouting for the conscienceless exclusion of vulnerable women, barbed wire wrapped baseball bats...

And women.... naming facts, saying biology exists and that women need males to respect female only spaces?

This is not extreme. It really isn't.

Yes extremism on both sides.

“Just as they disproportionately highlight the crimes of people of colour or migrants, so they smear all trans people with the crimes of just a few.

The far right is hose-piping our politics with hate: they say trans people are not real; that they are perverts or deviants; or part of a plot of groomers, a foreign-inspired ideology which has captured woke elites….”

“We have ended up in the absurd situation of some anti-GRR voices deciding that it is a slur – rather than an empirical observation – to say that far-right activists support their cause.”

HotPenguin · 15/02/2023 23:17

To be fair, I'm sure the far right are latching onto the issue, just like they have used groups like extinction rebellion to try and attract people to their cause. Extremists will use any group that might have an overlap with their own interests.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 15/02/2023 23:19

Thelnebriati · 15/02/2023 20:54

The both-siders have arrived early, put their towel on the deckchairs and fucked off as usual.

😀

nocoolnamesleft · 15/02/2023 23:29

Yeah, sure I'm far right: until recently I was a fully paid up member of the Lib Dems, ffs.

Onnabugeisha · 15/02/2023 23:29

HotPenguin · 15/02/2023 23:17

To be fair, I'm sure the far right are latching onto the issue, just like they have used groups like extinction rebellion to try and attract people to their cause. Extremists will use any group that might have an overlap with their own interests.

Yes. Exactly.

Onnabugeisha · 15/02/2023 23:31

nocoolnamesleft · 15/02/2023 23:29

Yeah, sure I'm far right: until recently I was a fully paid up member of the Lib Dems, ffs.

You aren’t but the guy in the article protesting alongside GC women with his “stop the gaystapo” placard is a well known far right personage.

JackieDaws · 15/02/2023 23:33

Onnabugeisha · 15/02/2023 17:30

It’s actually a good article as it is calling out the extremism on both sides.
The Nazi book burning was at the Berlin sexology institute that was researching transsexualism (old name for transgender), so it wasn’t an exaggeration but a relevant historical event.

Magnus Hirschfield was Jewish and his work burnt because he was Jewish.

Onnabugeisha · 15/02/2023 23:39

JackieDaws · 15/02/2023 23:33

Magnus Hirschfield was Jewish and his work burnt because he was Jewish.

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Funny the Nazis didn’t burn the work of other Jewish doctors and scientists….like Haber, Borns, Menzel, Warburg and Heisenberg.