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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Naked man in University Sports Park women’s changing room

73 replies

Sazzasez · 10/02/2023 06:21

www.edp24.co.uk/news/23309722.naked-man-reported-female-change-room-uea-sportspark/

The woman tying herself in knots “if she knows he’s transgender...” it would be fine!

Tell that to “Isla Bryson”’s victims.

But she can’t tell: nobody can.

The admissions policy for the sports park allows in unaccompanied children from the age of 12.

UEA is in deep financial doodoo but still spends thousands to be Stonewall “Diversity” Champions & bring in “Gendered Intelligence” to do its “diversity” training.

The safeguarding statement on the sportspark website gets the law wrong - “gender” is there, sex isnt.

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SinnerBoy · 09/03/2023 19:39

He's nicely acerbic there, isn't he?

Itisbetter · 09/03/2023 20:08

Well that’s University of East Anglea off the list places I’d encourage my children to attend.

DOBARDAN · 09/03/2023 20:33

A total disregard for the safety and dignity of women, shame on this uni

Sazzasez · 10/03/2023 07:28

SinnerBoy · 09/03/2023 19:39

He's nicely acerbic there, isn't he?

The writer goes by “Corisande Pick.” He/she/they have done a couple of Norwich-based stories before now.

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FrancescaContini · 10/03/2023 07:30

Another one off the list for my DDs.

Musomama1 · 10/03/2023 07:52

Too scared to actually do anything. Brave new world eh UEA? Btw, saying there are individual cubicles just doesn't work it when you can't control people to use them rather than walk around naked like this man did.

Hope it gets boycotted.

Itisbetter · 10/03/2023 08:08

Shut in a cubicle with a naked man outside isn’t a single sex space. Maybe universities should be ranked on their ability to uphold the law and provide safe environments for women and girls to live? Women should be able to see if an institution is one they want to be part of before they join.

Chersfrozenface · 10/03/2023 08:22

So let me get this straight.

Man showing his penis where women can see it in a public place = terribly, terribly bad*, viz. www.bbc.com/news/uk-64879554

Man showing his penis where women can see it in another public place, but where the women are undressing and/or showering = either "complicated" or no problem, but certainly not to be stopped, viz. this case and many others..

*which it is - I'm just contrasting the difference in attitudes

SinnerBoy · 10/03/2023 08:28

Sazzasez · Today 07:28

The writer goes by “Corisande Pick.”

Oops, I thought it was Lineham...

BruceAndNosh · 10/03/2023 08:29

If a transwoman wants to be accepted as a woman, keeping their penis covered is a good idea

Redebs · 10/03/2023 08:31

BruceAndNosh · 10/03/2023 08:29

If a transwoman wants to be accepted as a woman, keeping their penis covered is a good idea

No, men just need to stay out of women-only spaces

Chersfrozenface · 10/03/2023 08:41

BruceAndNosh · 10/03/2023 08:29

If a transwoman wants to be accepted as a woman, keeping their penis covered is a good idea

According to the genderwoosters, some women have penises.

Remember, it's not the outward appearance or the genitalia that make a person a woman, it's the inner sense of womanhood in that person's head.

The mantra is acceptance without exception, so you can't exclude women with penises.

BruceAndNosh · 10/03/2023 08:42

Redebs · 10/03/2023 08:31

No, men just need to stay out of women-only spaces

Sorry, I made my point clumsily.
I meant to imply that these men who expose themselves are not transwomen

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2023 08:48

Why aren't they?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2023 08:50

The thing is, most heterosexual men know exactly what their game is, which is why they are consistently more averse to men in women’s spaces than women are in the polls.

Exactly.

FrancescaContini · 10/03/2023 08:51

BruceAndNosh · 10/03/2023 08:29

If a transwoman wants to be accepted as a woman, keeping their penis covered is a good idea

No. Men don’t belong in female-only spaces.

It’s actually really simple.

Crabo · 10/03/2023 08:58

At a university? Well we know in the world of academia things like common sense (eg ‘people with penises are men’) do not apply and stupidity (eg ‘there are 1000 different genders’) generally rules. I have had a university education but would not sponsor any of my grandchildren to attend any of these bent lunatic asylums these days. Let them get a degree online while at work.

TheaBrandt · 10/03/2023 11:12

My Dh is extreme cynical about other men - your average man thinks men wandering into women’s changing rooms is outrageous - anecdotally anyway

Rightsraptor · 10/03/2023 11:48

Somewhere in that piece it says that the UEA is losing a lot of money and a high % of staff are being dismissed. So they are hardly even doing this from a safe financial position. It could be the straw that breaks the camel's back, as far as the uni is concerned.

Sazzasez · 10/03/2023 17:52

Rightsraptor · 10/03/2023 11:48

Somewhere in that piece it says that the UEA is losing a lot of money and a high % of staff are being dismissed. So they are hardly even doing this from a safe financial position. It could be the straw that breaks the camel's back, as far as the uni is concerned.

Major financial crises & the vice-chair has just stepped down.

A lot of spending on fantasy building projects, especially for student accommodation, and falling student numbers, I believe.

www.edp24.co.uk/news/23349160.uea-vice-chancellor-david-richardson-resigns-amid-turmoil/

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Redebs · 11/03/2023 18:53

BruceAndNosh · 10/03/2023 08:42

Sorry, I made my point clumsily.
I meant to imply that these men who expose themselves are not transwomen

Even if they cover their bodies though, they still aren't women.

Nothing wrong with being an effeminite man. Gender stereotypes are often harmful.

But biological sex isn't about costume.

GrumpyPanda · 11/03/2023 19:45

BruceAndNosh · 10/03/2023 08:29

If a transwoman wants to be accepted as a woman, keeping their penis covered is a good idea

And? So they're not flashing anymore. Still makes them voyeurs if it's in a changing room or shower room.

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