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Girl abducted in Galashiels appears to have been held by transwoman

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ArabellaScott · 07/02/2023 19:27

reduxx.info/scotland-crossdressing-butcher-arrested-in-case-of-missing-child/

Only source so far, but appears to be potentially corroborated by the Sun:

www.thesun.co.uk/news/21308457/cops-search-butchers-and-forensics-scour-for-evidence/

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Datun · 09/02/2023 07:30

discrimination is wrong in all it's forms.
so this is wrong

you can't pick a choose

I bet you'd never get a job on Space Mountain!

Justellingthetruth · 09/02/2023 07:32

@Datun

deflection answer from you that defines you.
also appears to be an insult
that defines you .

Datun · 09/02/2023 07:34

Justellingthetruth · 09/02/2023 07:32

@Datun

deflection answer from you that defines you.
also appears to be an insult
that defines you .

Lol

Sazzasez · 09/02/2023 07:38

Justellingthetruth · 09/02/2023 06:33

@Happylittlechicken

you are upset as you recognise what you are.
now you try to deflect

it's about bad people not what they present as.

Would you feel the same if it was a choice between saying “Catholic priest” or “man” abusing children?

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 09/02/2023 07:42

Sazzasez · 09/02/2023 07:38

Would you feel the same if it was a choice between saying “Catholic priest” or “man” abusing children?

YOU ARE DISCRIMINATING AGAINST PRIESTS!

Cailin66 · 09/02/2023 07:42

Datun · 08/02/2023 23:03

This is just going to run and run.

Every time a man who says he's a woman commits a crime, the media will want to know if, under sturgeon's definitions, he's a man, a woman, a transwoman, or a common or or garden chancer. And what prison he should go to. And how do we decide. And, and, and.

It will never stop. All her 'carefully, well thought out criteria' falls over immediately.

This is going to get farcical.

<Rubs hands...>

He could also be “an individual”. Welcome to the baffling world of Scottish language for men and women.

picklemewalnuts · 09/02/2023 07:42

Yeah, no looking for patterns, people. That's so offensive.

Oh and another new gender to go with male, female, individual, child abductor. and rapist. Butcher.

It's entertaining (if it wasn't enraging) reading all the ways journalists have avoided pronouns.

MichelleScarn · 09/02/2023 07:45

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 09/02/2023 07:03

This is a thread ABOUT A CHILD ABDUCTION.

And you think Arabella is the villain of the story? 🤣

ODFOD.

I'm actually stunned (not stunning at this time of the morning!) that just is admitting the alleged (are we still needing to say that alleged bit?) perpetrator is a bad person!

Sazzasez · 09/02/2023 07:49

@ShireWifeofNigelFarage

That I am!

I actually did hear someone claim, like JustTellingPorkies does here, that it was prejudicial to report abuse by Catholic priests as being abuse by Catholic priests & not just by men.

I pointed out that if they thought that, they’d be all in favour of ordaining women.

But apparently that’s quite a different thing.

SinnerBoy · 09/02/2023 07:53

Happylittlechicken · Today 06:03

Ooh is this another ‘you’re racist because you are recognising biological sex’ pos NicolaSturgeon -Justtellingthetruth-

spidereggs · 09/02/2023 07:54

@ShireWifeofNigelFarage yeah. So usually held locally, then appear, then remanded.

But here he was meant to appear yesterday and didn't, will be today. So I don't know where he went last night.

No holding Selkirk, for overnight. Perhaps was kept at Hawick which again would be unusual.

NecessaryScene · 09/02/2023 07:58

discrimination is wrong in all it's forms.

Except discriminating between "transwomen" and men, right?

lifeturnsonadime · 09/02/2023 08:02

Well isn't Justtellinthetruth a peach!

He's come on here simply to scold women for telling the truth.

And to tell us we are baddies for wanting single sex spaces.

On a thread about a child who was abducted by a trans woman.

midgemadgemodge · 09/02/2023 08:03

Discriminate between meat that is fresh and meat that is off is bad?

Discriminate between the holder of a relevant phd and the holder of 2 GCSEs in Job selection is bad ?

Perhaps we can just be more careful to use differentiate for positively
Motivated and correct and discriminate for negative motivation and bad? Would that help

So we are not discriminating we are differentiating between male and female for clearly evidenced biological reasons

We feel that to differentiate between genders however ( so transowmwn and women ) would actually be discriminating against men and transmen because there is no unifying fundamental reason why we should ?

lordloveadog · 09/02/2023 08:06

When a man starts displaying sexual behaviour in public, it's a bad sign. It doesn't always escalate, but there's a risk it will.

Requiring/encouraging/grooming people to ignore some kinds of sexualized public behaviour and to mistrust their instincts about it is a very bad idea.

Datun · 09/02/2023 08:06

Let's hope health care professionals continue to discriminate on the basis of sex too, eh?

midgemadgemodge · 09/02/2023 08:09

I'm going further

If we lived in a country that viewed transwomen as men consistently then I would argue this thread could be wrong to call out the transgender nature because at that point it's like saying they are a ranger supporter - irrelevant but likely to stir up bad feelings to a community

In a future world

WickedSerious · 09/02/2023 08:09

Justellingthetruth · 09/02/2023 07:32

@Datun

deflection answer from you that defines you.
also appears to be an insult
that defines you .

Worst haiku ever.

Rainbowshit · 09/02/2023 08:16

lifeturnsonadime · 09/02/2023 08:02

Well isn't Justtellinthetruth a peach!

He's come on here simply to scold women for telling the truth.

And to tell us we are baddies for wanting single sex spaces.

On a thread about a child who was abducted by a trans woman.

It's astonishing isn't it how as soon as the word trans is mentioned people seem to lose their minds and defend the indefensible ? We're taking about someone who abducted an 11 year old girl here!!

suggestionsplease1 · 09/02/2023 08:20

It's a bit naive to think that overt focus on a particular characteristic of a criminal will not have knock on consequences for the law abiding majority that share that characteristic. 🤷‍♂️

Had the media chosen to eg. go out of their way to focus on the lesbian sexuality of the parents who killed their daughter Star of course there would be knock on consequences in terms of increased societal discrimination against lesbians. I wonder what forums existed discussing lesbian propensity to abuse and criminality after that? They would have been operating in exactly the way Mumsnet FWR operates, just focusing on a different characteristic.

The media could go out of their way to focus on the vast, vast over-representation of lesbians in US jails and draw some conclusions from that, or wait for readers to draw their own conclusions.

www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/overwhelming-number-lesbians-bisexual-women-incarcerated-n728666

I've got to say, as a lesbian, I'm pleased that the media are not going out of their way to highlight this as I know that would lead to increased discrimination for myself and my friends.

Tallisker · 09/02/2023 08:23

But being lesbian isn't a risk factor for violence against women and girls. Being male is. And according to statistics, being trans and male appears to increase that risk.

Datun · 09/02/2023 08:25

It's a bit naive to think that overt focus on a particular characteristic of a criminal will not have knock on consequences for the law abiding majority that share that characteristic. 🤷‍♂️

When that characteristic causes the government to instantly depart from reality and send men to women's jails it's reprehensible not to highlight it.

Justellingthetruth · 09/02/2023 08:27

@NecessaryScene

i don’t say that so my statement stands

Justellingthetruth · 09/02/2023 08:27

@Datun

you see you are going to a different point with the above.
avoid discrimination

Justellingthetruth · 09/02/2023 08:28

@suggestionsplease1

exactly no discrimination is right

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