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Girl abducted in Galashiels appears to have been held by transwoman

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ArabellaScott · 07/02/2023 19:27

reduxx.info/scotland-crossdressing-butcher-arrested-in-case-of-missing-child/

Only source so far, but appears to be potentially corroborated by the Sun:

www.thesun.co.uk/news/21308457/cops-search-butchers-and-forensics-scour-for-evidence/

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Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 17:45

ismu · 09/02/2023 17:43

@ShireWifeofNigelFarage I think you might need to look at some recent medical developments.

Why do you educate us. Post what has convinced you and let us all be convinced.

lifeturnsonadime · 09/02/2023 17:47

Ismu is giving out the India vibes, their can't surely be more than 1 TW who believes that human's can change sex?

AlisonDonut · 09/02/2023 17:48

ismu · 09/02/2023 17:43

@ShireWifeofNigelFarage I think you might need to look at some recent medical developments.

Such as?

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 09/02/2023 17:51

ismu · 09/02/2023 17:44

Well, calling people pigeons and clowns appears to be ok, but not calling out bigots.

We've all gone very quiet on the Gala situation

You are mistaken.

We said human beings AREN’T clownfish, we didn’t call a human being A clownfish.

We’re mocking the ideas, not the people. Same way many of us mock the funny ideas in other, older religions (eg virgin birth = obvious bullshit).

It’s the BELIEFS you hold that are amusing, not your personhood.
We don’t know anything about you as a person, y’know, this being an anonymous chat board.

You do have all the arguing finesse of a hormonal teenager, but that’s not a trait uniquely seen in minors…

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 09/02/2023 17:51

AlisonDonut · 09/02/2023 17:48

Such as?

Yes please! Show us the links!

Happylittlechicken · 09/02/2023 17:56

Another one just here for the links @ismu is going to provide. Hobnob anyone?

ditalini · 09/02/2023 17:57

Is this the two rats stitched together to prove that the male rat can have a baby (as long as he's got access to a nice fresh pregnant actual female blood supply)? Is it that one?

Is it the one where "scientists" keep telling us that uterus transplants into transwomen will be a reality ANY DAY NOW (with the uterus harvested from a transman, and presumably the stitched on female handmaiden recruited from the "be kind" crew). That one?

GrabbyGabby · 09/02/2023 17:58

I want links, peer reviewed papers, case studies, data. Show me the people who have changed sex. The males who have given birth and menstruated and have XX chromosomes in every cell of their body, and have the potential to produce large immotile gametes and no longer can produce small motile gametes.

I want to know why you are so certain that something that has never happened in the history of forever is not only theoretically possible, but has actually happened.

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 18:00

"don't let being wrong [edited so it won't be deleted] stop you using bullying language and a condescending tone of certainty."

Please point out the bullying language? Or do you refer to my pointing out the falsities and the cognitive distortions? Because that is simply working through your own posts and working out what is truth and what is not. You don't want your posts analysed? I would suggest then that you post evidenced claims and engage rather than the constant personal attacks and negative generalisations you have quickly descended into.

Claiming victimhood in this way is also a common tactic.

I think you are also confusing me with other posters. I have asked you questions and written quite detailed posts to which you have simply posted quips, personal attacks or ignored. No emojis from me.

So, yet another dishonest post from you. Keep them coming. The live demonstration that readers are getting is very valuable. Although, I would rather you post evidence to support your claims. Got any?

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 18:01

I suspect we are about to get the American Scientist blog post. Any takers?

Have we got Claire Ainsworth's tweet at the ready!

ShireWifeofNigelFarage · 09/02/2023 18:05

ditalini · 09/02/2023 17:57

Is this the two rats stitched together to prove that the male rat can have a baby (as long as he's got access to a nice fresh pregnant actual female blood supply)? Is it that one?

Is it the one where "scientists" keep telling us that uterus transplants into transwomen will be a reality ANY DAY NOW (with the uterus harvested from a transman, and presumably the stitched on female handmaiden recruited from the "be kind" crew). That one?

Maybe it’s that new one where they suggest using brains dead women as meat incubators for strangers?

Or maybe it’s that one where they try and make sperm cells out of bits of skin?

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 18:06

ismu · 09/02/2023 17:44

Well, calling people pigeons and clowns appears to be ok, but not calling out bigots.

We've all gone very quiet on the Gala situation

If you can't see the differences here, then you might need to consider it more carefully.

People are pointing out pigeon like behaviour. YOU are directly attacking posters and the board in gender with accusations of bigotry.

It is not proportionate. And I really don't think you can claim to be a victim when readers go back a few pages and see your posts in all their glory.

picklemewalnuts · 09/02/2023 18:07

I'm really a little tired of people like Ismu telling us we're ignorant and need to educate ourselves, but never providing any actual science for us to learn from.

I mean honestly. How can we learn when those challenging us don't make any arguments that hold water, or provide any links to other people's?

I asked if you were new be because you sounded genuinely naive and uninformed. It wasn't intended as an insult.

DarkDayforMN · 09/02/2023 18:09

Perhaps it will be something never before seen on this board… we’re going to get a link to some buttbaby fanfiction?

Though it probably will be a plastic surgeon making up outrageous lies to promote his business in the Daily Mail, as if it were an OnlyFans account.

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 18:14

I actually welcome a link that shows strong and robust evidence being posted here. Let's wait to see what "I think you might need to look at some recent medical developments" refers to.

I really am looking forward to seeing it.

nilsmousehammer · 09/02/2023 18:19

Key points of the Gala situation;

Further evidence (currently turning up bi weekly) that a male person with a trans identity can also be a male emphatically not a safe person to trusted to be in spaces where women and children are vulnerable.

That this is a male person who may well be able to identify into a women's prison, and be a male not safe to be around women and certainly not trustworthy in a safeguarding sense who is locked up with captive, vulnerable women three quarters of whom have a history of mental health needs and experience of abuse.

That Sturgeon may be forced to invent a fourth sex of abductor, but it will certainly be very interesting to see whether she continues down the current muddle of

TWAW until they are convicted of something and then they're not
Any TW offending in this way is not actually T (but TWAW and self ID)
Women and children's safety and needs can be subordinated to the needs of male people
Wonderful risk assessments, which cleared Bryson and Scott to go into the women's estate, both decisions reversed by Sturgeon when the general public found out ,so obviously don't work as claimed.

TightFistedWozerk · 09/02/2023 18:19

I hope the person comes back after supper with these new developments.

We had casserole with dumplings, oh my, a triumph of fluffiness for once, normally they are frankly cobblestones as I am a crap cook

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 18:20

"don't let being wrong [edited so it won't be deleted] stop you using bullying language and a condescending tone of certainty."

Oh. And by the way, I also want to point out that this seems to be projection on your part. You have consistently posted negative generalisations and personal attacks. And you are certainly condescending.

So far though, we have not seen one shred of evidence to support your claims. Not one.

So again, your posts seem to based on dishonest interpretations, and emotionally manipulative tactics rather than any solid evidence. You have repeated and doubled down on tired old disproved facts even when people have told you they are false.

It is really important for readers to understand what is false, when they are being manipulated using hyperbole, and cognitive distortions and what is true. If you cannot provide robust enough evidence to back up your posts, why not? Have you ever thought about it?

Igneococcus · 09/02/2023 18:23

Maybe it's the one about the knock out rats (or mice?). Because knocking out a gene in lab mice to show that this gene is involved in sexual development means humans (in the wild, not a lab) can change sex, according to not very bright bloke in the Times comments.

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 18:24

ismu · 09/02/2023 17:44

Well, calling people pigeons and clowns appears to be ok, but not calling out bigots.

We've all gone very quiet on the Gala situation

What is the 'Gala' situation?

picklemewalnuts · 09/02/2023 18:25

I think it's 'local' for Galashiels.

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 18:26

I personally am looking for signs of a device that can vaporise a body to atomic level, (probably sub atomic to be fair) and then recreate a body as the other sex from cellular level.

Then I might start believing that humans can change sex.

But then I am still fucking waiting for a hoverboard too!

ditalini · 09/02/2023 18:28

Gala is what people from Galashiels and surrounds call it.

There's not a lot to say as the case is now sub judice and it looks like the defendant is being considered male for the purposes of the criminal justice system, as he should be.

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 18:28

What more do we need to discuss about the 'Gala' situation then?

Has the past 18 1/2 pages of posts not been relevant?

And of course, there is the Scottish Prison announcement that I am sure will be discussed on a different thread.

Helleofabore · 09/02/2023 18:37

You have repeated and doubled down on tired old disproved facts even when people have told you they are false.

I need to correct myself here.

That should be You have repeated and doubled down on tired old disproved claims even when people have told you they are false.

I am not sure what facts have been posted, but many claims have .

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