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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tiffany Scott 'not a threat' - justice minister

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ArabellaScott · 30/01/2023 11:56

These people are stark raving mad.

'"This changes on a regular basis but it is my understanding there are no transgender women in the female estate that have violence against women convictions.'

Fucking WHAT?!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-64431383

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/01/2023 13:28

Careful choice of words and Andrew Burns is waiting for transfer.

Exactly. And I came to say as other pp have that Dolatowski has just been released very recently.

BellaAmorosa · 30/01/2023 14:33

DarkDayforMN · 30/01/2023 13:04

They're legally women, so again, he is technically correct. More verbal sleight of hand.

You think he's defining "transgender women" to exclude penispeople with GRCs? I suppose now you say it, it's totally possible there's a footnote in a briefing document somewhere which allows him to get away with this, on the basis that if you can't measure a thing it doesn't exist.

Well, legal sex = bio sex for all purposes, so...

is how I imagine the reasoning.

Dodecaheidyin · 30/01/2023 14:52

Keith Brown is an absolutely odious man.

100%

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 14:54

You know considering the idea behind getting men into the female prison estate first was to prove to everyone else that men in women's spaces was totally fine no problem. The fact that actually it turns out that it's a big Fucking problem for all but the most stupid of devout followers should mean the rest of this shit and nonsense is stopped. Let's see shall we.

ArabellaScott · 30/01/2023 16:31

We can hope, Boiled.

With any luck it'll work in reverse, and people will start to join the dots.

Rapists shouldn't be in women's prisons.
Actually, men shouldn't be in women's prisons.
Actually, men shouldn't be in women's spaces, full stop.

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TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 16:46

Absolutely bonkers.

Two narrow misses due to public uproar ‘Isla’ and ‘Tiffany’.

‘Katie’ attacked female children and a male prisoner but is out on licence, likely in a womens homeless shelter or halfway house.

‘Paris’ tortured and killed a man

‘Sophie’ killed another male prisoner but now identifies as baby and so was transferred out of the female prison into to a young offenders unit. Sophie is 36.

Who else do we know about?

Plus, what happens if a man who says he’s a woman commits an offence against a woman who says she’s a man? What about if the woman says she has no sex and is genderfluid?

I’m absolutely fed up with this slippery shit.

TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 16:49

ArabellaScott · 30/01/2023 12:27

twitter.com/AlessandraAster/status/1619755562035724289

Risk Assessment Formerly Known as Rigorous

That risk assessment identifies as being rigorous.

JKRfan · 30/01/2023 16:57

ditalini · 30/01/2023 12:09

It's so odd than when the "be kind" brigade wang on about "fully transitioned" accountants being no risk and surely there should be exceptions, the SPS are determined to get the most violent offenders into the female estate - zero tolerance to this shite is the only thing that will stop them trying to get this stuff through.

Exactly they have been 'given an inch and have taken a mile' so the only way is a simple NO.

nilsmousehammer · 30/01/2023 17:01

ArabellaScott · 30/01/2023 12:27

twitter.com/AlessandraAster/status/1619755562035724289

Risk Assessment Formerly Known as Rigorous

As I said to a friend today, I was once shown a risk assessment by a playgroup for a toddler who was going through a biting phase. It was far, far more rigorous than this!

nilsmousehammer · 30/01/2023 17:21

JKRfan · 30/01/2023 16:57

Exactly they have been 'given an inch and have taken a mile' so the only way is a simple NO.

This.

If this fully transitioned, all the surgery, convicted for a bit of gentle fraud male TQ+ person exists, I'd suggest to them to keep their head well down before their rarity value means the SNP stuffs them in a glass case as their key exhibit.

But what is in the public domain is the clear evidence that in a small number of males cleared for the female estate there is a very high percentage of murder convictions, rape convictions, sexual assault, violence both before and during incarceration and all fully intact, unaltered males, and two have completed sentences but are not safe to be released.

The fully surgically transitioned, bent accountant myth is pure manipulation. It is knowing and intentional manipulation. And its has worked to get people's sympathy and naivety exploited for these dangerous, violent men to have access to women. Not the space: a space could easily have been provided. Remember that. The goal was the access to women.

It shows as years of this now shows: every inch offered is used to hijack several miles and it's time for some very strong boundaries. No. No males at all. However sad the story, however lovely the accountant.

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