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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Montgomerie talk at Edinburgh

51 replies

PoliticalFootball · 27/01/2023 20:15

Being live streamed now. Anyone listening? They're explaining the gender critical movement to students. I won't link but she's making them giggle a lot by the sounds of things

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unwashedanddazed · 28/01/2023 11:23

jamesesses.substack.com/p/deception-liesand-katy-montgomerie

Interesting little article exposing the moral compass of Monty.

Helleofabore · 28/01/2023 11:27

Why does Montgomerie adopt the mannerisms of a 16 year old? It is really noticeably immature mannerisms. Do they think it will help to pass? A very tall male with extreme body modifications needs the mannerisms to further distract from being a very tall male with extreme body modifications?

Baaaaaa · 28/01/2023 16:43

"I'm not calling you the Klu Klux Klan" says Katie, whilst suggesting just that

She directly compared monty self talking to GC people, as like a Daryl Davis, a civil rights activist talking to the Klu Klux Klan.

Unbelievable.

Rainbowshit · 28/01/2023 20:18

It amuses me that Monty's talk has been overshadowed by Isla Bryson.

TheClogLady · 28/01/2023 20:28

The logo from title page looks curiously like an erect penis protruding from crumpled trousers…

How unfortunate.

Thanks for link. Bookmarked for tomorrow.

Montgomerie talk at Edinburgh
lordloveadog · 28/01/2023 20:33

Well done Shereen Benjamin! Must have been a pretty intimidating environment.

MorvenOfMalvern · 28/01/2023 21:40

TheClogLady · 28/01/2023 20:28

The logo from title page looks curiously like an erect penis protruding from crumpled trousers…

How unfortunate.

Thanks for link. Bookmarked for tomorrow.

It is quite phallic, isn't it!

I tried to listen but the snide remarks and completely lack of veracity to so much of what said infuriated me. And it was so boring, nothing new or interesting or different or insightful at all. I actually fell asleep! Not sure I can be bothered to try again bit I did want to witness the GC bravery.

V few people there really. Probably a bit disappointing. Did anyone else wonder who wrote the big up intro? Wasn't it just a bit....much? I've never been to an event where so much praise has been heaped prior to the person actually speaking, especially when it's ticketed and you can assume those coming have opted to do so because they know and want to hear the speaker?

I am really pleased that it went ahead. More like it please. The last few weeks have shown that the more people hear, the more questions they have and the more discussion there is. Great! And I'm also really pleased that there were no demos, no threats, no loud heckling. But I do so wish the same respect and facilitation could be afforded to all points of view.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 28/01/2023 21:46

Watching it with the sound down it’s an illustrative lesson in how the male skeleton & male gestures can’t be erased

morningtoncrescent62 · 28/01/2023 22:05

This is considered appropriate at a prestigious university? I'm glad my daughters are long past university age. The only 'evidence' of GC people being hateful is the complete distortion and misrepresentation of the WDI, and that's used to rationalise deplatforming women talking about their rights. It's such weak reasoning, and for a university to be promoting no-platforming is nuts.

The cat pictures and the giggling were annoying too.

morningtoncrescent62 · 28/01/2023 22:30

Was anyone there? I want to know what happened in the bits that are blanked out with the "Look after each other" screen!

DerekFaker · 29/01/2023 09:13

Hmmmn.

Montgomerie talk at Edinburgh
Montgomerie talk at Edinburgh
Montgomerie talk at Edinburgh
Coatandhat · 29/01/2023 09:20

Very disappointing to see so many young women being taken in by the nonsense. I guess they'll only realise when hard reality collides with their be kind, rainbow sprinkled beliefs.

KittyKlaws · 29/01/2023 12:57

PoliticalFootball · 28/01/2023 10:45

Thanks to whoever it was that suggested it was Dr Shereen Benjamin - it seemed as if she was an academic as she was very articulate - Montgomerie didn't seem in their natural habitat.

Yes Shereen is exceptionally eloquent and intelligent, she must have been bored senseless there. Bless her for even attending.

KittyKlaws · 29/01/2023 13:01

morningtoncrescent62 · 28/01/2023 22:05

This is considered appropriate at a prestigious university? I'm glad my daughters are long past university age. The only 'evidence' of GC people being hateful is the complete distortion and misrepresentation of the WDI, and that's used to rationalise deplatforming women talking about their rights. It's such weak reasoning, and for a university to be promoting no-platforming is nuts.

The cat pictures and the giggling were annoying too.

It doesn't look like many of Edinburgh's students embraced this to be fair.

Helleofabore · 29/01/2023 13:08

DerekFaker · 29/01/2023 09:13

Hmmmn.

Were they watching the same feed.

CaveMum · 29/01/2023 17:29

Someone on Twitter said there were 45 people in the audience.

DerekFaker · 30/01/2023 11:02

The gang's all there (presumably in the women's toilets).

Montgomerie talk at Edinburgh
Montgomerie talk at Edinburgh
Helleofabore · 30/01/2023 11:12

Wow.... And they wonder why women keep telling them to fuck off out of single sex spaces?

Just a game to them isn't it.

RoyalCorgi · 30/01/2023 11:55

V few people there really.

That's my big takeaway too. Imagine if it had been Helen Joyce or Kathleen Stock speaking. The truth is, very few people really believe the TWAW mantra and hardly anyone wants to listen to Montgomerie bore on about it.

FrancescaContini · 30/01/2023 13:29

DerekFaker · 30/01/2023 11:02

The gang's all there (presumably in the women's toilets).

I bet their parents are so proud of them 🤨

PriOn1 · 30/01/2023 13:40

Helleofabore · 28/01/2023 11:27

Why does Montgomerie adopt the mannerisms of a 16 year old? It is really noticeably immature mannerisms. Do they think it will help to pass? A very tall male with extreme body modifications needs the mannerisms to further distract from being a very tall male with extreme body modifications?

Having only seen photos and carefully curated videos before, I must say I was surprised.

ArabellaScott · 30/01/2023 13:50

So ... Montgomerie repeatedly interrupted and wasn't willing to let Shereen ask her question, then - they cut the camera?

They just can't face civil debate, can they?

Helleofabore · 30/01/2023 13:58

Safety first, Arabella. Safety first.

ArabellaScott · 30/01/2023 14:00

Well, you know, if you ensure that you present your case using various hyperbolic and exaggerated strawman arguments, and then censor anyone trying to ask reasonable, politely worded questions ... it will work for a very small audience for a limited amount of time.

TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 15:14

I tried to listen but the sound quality is so shit I abandoned ship. Even tried an external Bluetooth speaker. Still awful. I cba with that, I listen to these things while moving around doing stuff (Obvs, or I’d never get anything done).

Montgomerie is proper massive!

So much so that I even checked for high heels…

Nope, Flatty McFlatshoes.

Must’ve been a bit chilly in that outfit in Edinburgh in January - I recommend a knitted jumper, some wool slacks, hiking socks and warm boots next time!

Montgomerie talk at Edinburgh
Montgomerie talk at Edinburgh