Is Peter Tatchell doing a reverse ferret?

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Old Pete is now saying he never said TWAW… oh dear…

twitter.com/petertatchell/status/1618726763345117185?s=46&t=p8SWvwIhWUMo1pwAr7EJMw

Oh my goodness. I’ve just followed that tweet and had to laugh at that screenshot from the conversation with a journalist that Julie Bindell posted where she finished by just saying ‘he’ 🤣

I thought he was envisioning a Barbie Kardashian situation where the guy was constantly accompanied by at least one prison officer. But, yeah, his whole sentence spent in solitary. Not that I care, but it's not very humane. How would he be rehabilitated? I expect access to the therapy/courses normally given to rapists would be difficult at a facility where there's usually little requirement for them.

Then there are the female guards who will be expected to search and watch him. In solitary or out. Their welfare.

This is all sucking money from a prison service that is already underfunded, so more detriment to the women prisoners.

They aren't reverse ferreting, just covering their own arses in self preservation mode. They know its reprehensible that male rapists have been put be in female prisons, they know where public opinion is on this now (though ignored women making this point for years)

I bet both still firmly believe that men who identify as women should be allowed access to all other single sex spaces. That is until the next scandal where they will tweak their view ever so slightly again.

Owen did come out yesterday to post this:

'Can we have unity around this central point:

The vast majority of women should NOT be locked up.'

Which was a relief to hear.

Also yes, all these people suggesting it's fine to keep someone in solitary all of the time - it's really not. Talk about Geneva Convention and humanity and treating people with compassion.

Not to mention it being against regulations, as I understand it.

@Helleofabore I think your comment, prior to its delete, asked about the date of Peter's video interview? The original twitter post was 2022 and it said it was from the previous day, although I can't find any corroboration of this.

However, he does reference the same story in a piece on his website which was written some time during or after 2010 and also appears to reference it in his infamous 1997 letter.

A timeline of the times Peter has had his views linked to pedophilia. Since poor Peter keeps having his totally benign views quoted out of context, everything below is taken from the information he has published on his own website:

1981/82 - wrote a chapter on the age of consent which was published in a pro-pedophile book. His chapter makes no mention of sex between adults and children.

1997 - letter to The Guardian in which he defends an academic book about adults having sex with children. In his words the book offers "a rational, informed perspective on sexual relations between younger and older people” and documents “examples of societies where consenting inter-generational sex is considered normal, beneficial and enjoyable by old and young alike". The letter continues "the positive nature of some child-adult sexual relationships is not confined to Western cultures. Several of my friends, gay and straight, male and female, had sex with adults from the ages of 9 to 13. None feel they were abused". He offers justification for these views in a 2020 interview published on his website.

1997 - Interview with a 14-year-old boy called Lee. "Lee" is unusually articulate for a 14 year old, and keen to describe his sexual experiences to Peter in great detail. "Lee" says that "the paedophiles I knew always asked me if I wanted sex. They didn’t pressure me. If you consent to having sex with a paedophile, it’s fine. If you don’t, it’s not”

1998 - wrote a touching obituary for PIE founder Ian Dunn. Despite several high profile exposés and their subsequent impact of Ian's political career, Peter was sadly not aware of Ian's views on pedophilia. This did not prevent him from writing his glowing obituary which he, unfortunately, did no research for.

2010 or later - he writes on his website about a friend's positive experience of sex with an adult at 9 years old. "As an example, the film-maker Derek Jarman told me that he had sex with an adult, at his initiative, from the age of nine." He calls this experience . The reference terms he uses are "inter-generational sex" and "early sexual experiences".

Derek Jarman is dead and so not able to confirm or deny this.

In the mid 90s, Private Eye published a disgusting first draft, where he described abusing 13 and 14 year old boys. At the time, Stonewall told him to tone it down and we've seen what the toned down version looks like.

It makes me puke that the likes of the Guardian lionise the bastard.

@Mammillaria

Great post. You will have to use your witchy telepathic powers to read my response. Sending in 3 2 1

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Got it? Great, yeah i would be banned for writing it wouldn't I!

These pronouncements by supporters of gender identity ideology are dishonest because they're using words like "trans", "transwoman", "transition", "man", "woman", "male", "female", "sex", "gender", "genitalia", etc in the knowledge that when the next scandal comes along they'll just claim a different and self-serving set of definitions for the words they used.

Loud and clear!

And you just know in a few years time when it's to late to do anything, they'll all sit there on interview show's going "well of course I was completely unaware of any of these allegations"

We know that’s what they are saying. That’s literally what Nicola Sturgeon came out and said. They are women until such a point as they are not women, they are men. We are saying they are either men or women. They is no nuance in sex. If you want to discuss gender we’re here for you all day long.

Is this a first draft of the 1997 Guardian letter?

And he thinks teachers should be teaching pupils about sexual technique and masturbation….

I did ask that mammillaria. I just noticed it was deleted. And then realised maybe I used the word starting with p with an ending sounding like while in the same sentence.

Thank you for this.

I did think that he had doubled down after the denial.

He also supports children accessing porn 'because they are not harmed by it'. He has stated previously that porn is a good learning tool for children. He said early 22 or late 21 that he was approached about a 15 yr old girl who told him how watching porn was good for her, because it taught her how to have sex. I think he said she told him that it taught them how to 'make him happy and he can make her happy'.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4429999-Posie-Parker-on-GB-News

I also want to add to his list that he was vocally supportive that a young woman who was married in Turkey as an underage bride and he was campaigning to have the wife and husband housed together (she was still underage) but I cannot find it. Maybe the thread was deleted... If I find it I will link it up.

A first draft of what?

How this man still gets attention and air time I’ll never know.

I have frequently wondered about this.

However I've wondered about with other's as well. Even as a child I wonder about why Jimmy Savile has so much airtime I always found him creepy and a poor fit for children's TV.

Ahh.... this is the link I wanted:

apnews.com/article/06582909ff5ce8dc0f3864757239f2ea

A letter from Tatchell Saturday 27 January 1996

(see archive dot com) for this.

Sir: Your thoughtful, compassionate editorial ("Sad tale of a modern- day Juliet", 25 January) on the hounding of the 13-year-old child bride, Sarah Cook, was a much-needed corrective to the hysterical, heartless reaction of the Turkish and British authorities. Although her marriage may be unlawful, there is no evidence that Sarah was coerced into, or harmed by, the relationship with Musa Komaegae. Indeed, she appears to have been very happy - until the heavy-handed intervention of officialdom.

Why the authorities should want to (or be allowed to) break up the love between these two teenagers is beyond my comprehension. Isn't there enough emotional unhappiness in the world without adding needlessly to it? Moreover, in an era when youth promiscuity is widely condemned, one would expect society to welcome Sarah's and Musa's love and fidelity, rather than seek to destroy it.

About this situation here:

apnews.com/article/06582909ff5ce8dc0f3864757239f2ea

I believe he also has said that he doesn't condemn child marriage in certain cultural situations.

Just about everything that this man writes about is about removing the sexual boundaries of children.

And women.

And for this he is lauded and wheeled out as an exemplary character.

Interesting the number of people who suddenly seem to be realising that TWAW isn't just a nice friendly thing to say to show that you support trans people but a proposition with real repercussions they clearly never considered.

He has consistently proven he has absolutely NO concept of safeguarding. Yet is going into schools!!!

I mean Stonewall is sending him into schools and schools are not doing their due diligence here.

I guess they would have to know what they are looking for to find it.

He has so many entries in a search that unless you were pre-armed you would not find it.

I think he needs to be held accountable for his words. Every single one of them.

I heard Peter Tachell on the radio the other day talking about the current transwoman rape case.

He started off calling the transwoman 'he', then changed to 'she' then 'they' and then seemed to settle on using the surname of said person.

If someone like Peter Tachell can't work out which pronoun to use what hope is there for the rest of us? I actually found it quite comical.

MaudGone · Today 11:05

Is this a first draft of the 1997 Guardian letter?

I think that's a version, but if I remember correctly, he had written a piece for Stonewall, which they thought Beyond the Pale.

Has he deleted the tweet?

Here are Jo Bartosch's tweets. It seems she had connectivity issues, so she has just done a video reply...

twitter.com/jo_bartosch/status/1618678390902644736?s=20&t=dHC-netrXGfc7msLms98Vw