Anybody considering home schooling because of all of this gender fuckery?

[YourVagesty]

Disclaimer before we get into it: I am, and always will be an ally to the lesbian and gay communities.

Right, that out of the way... I've got two nieces and a stepdaughter who all think they are trans. Frankly, I'm fed up of every conversation with them leading back to whether they are a demiboy or queer etc. It's relentless. I've told them to forget labels and focus on what makes them a good or inspiring person, and to just fall in love with whoever they fall in love with - when they are old enough obviously. Whatever, I don't care.

I'm over the culty obsession with all of it and if it was any other trend, I'd be unconcerned (teen fads come and go). But obviously, with this one, they are at risk of ending up sterilised or in chronic pain if they get too sucked into it.

As much as I'd hope that this will all pass, part of me thinks this new scientific-unreality is here to stay and frankly, I don't want my toddler to enter a school system that promotes the idea that you can choose to be male or female. I don't need him having anxieties over whether playing with girl toys makes him a girl etc.

I don't want him coached into thinking about things that I find as unbelievable as the existence of Jesus Christ.

I want him to learn life skills and make friends basically. So my mind is ticking over the idea of home schooling and I wondered whether others are feeling this way?

I guess if there are enough parents that feel this way in some geographical areas, that they could start their own mini schools?

Obviously, as he gets older, I'll be careful with his Internet use too because I know the Internet shoulders much of the blame for the social contagion aspect.

If there are any teachers reading, what's your perspective on this? What is happening in the schools from your point of view? I'm from an academic background and I know the universities have gone all in on all of this. Meh.

Sorry for the long post!

@Kam610 if this is real i would stop the cats going to school as cats don’t go to school , out in the back garden kitty

@Labyrinth86 lots to unpick. Let’s start with ‘you're all there worrying about labels people assign themselves and how they dress. Honestly, what is the actual problem?’
The problem is that this ideology limits many of the freedoms women have fought for for hundreds of years. It reduces women to what someone dresses in, whether they wear make up, how much in ‘girl mode’ they are. It suggests that men’s bodies are the same as women’s bodies, apart from genitalia and breasts. It suggests that a male body wearing a woman’s sport kit, competing against a woman’s body is a fair contest. It doesn’t recognise the violence, comments and casual groping women put up with on a daily basis- it suggests we can simply identify out of it. The problem is that women in prison, already some of the most vulnerable people in our society (53% reporting sexual and physical violence in their past) will be housed with people who retain male hormones, penises and who have been incarcerated for violence against women. It’s happening now. It also means that a crime can be recorded as having been perpetrated by a woman, when really it is a trans woman- the figures are no longer accurate. It means when services for men and women are being planned there are no accurate figures- if you haven’t read ‘Invisible Women’ it’s a good start. It means when we are looking at say the amount of women as barristers, or judges, or any of the high ranking, powerful jobs where women have been underrepresented and often actively discouraged, we now cannot see where the women are. Women and some men have fought for greater female representation, the right laws to protect our experience of rape, health, DV, pregnancy, the workplace, safety on the streets etc and now we are being told that those rights extend to the men who choose to dress in a different way. And let me be clear, I fully encourage anyone to express themselves in the way they dress. In the 80s I crimped my brothers hair and painted his nails. I wore army boots and dungarees and snogged men with hair to their waists! I marched against Section 28 and wore a pink triangle in solidarity with all my gay housemates and spent the weekends in Heaven and GAY! Suggesting women of my generation apply labels is ridiculous. The self labelling and shoving of young people into boxes I see on TikTok is soul destroying.
Young women in schools have to deal with sexualised comments from boys, scrutiny of their bodies and the physical pain and management of periods, (especially at the start of menstruation). Young women emerge in a spotlight so different to that of young men; it is no wonder that so many, especially those with ASC and anxiety are drawn to the idea that they can opt out of womanhood. Girls with ASC are massively over represented in young people defining themselves as non binary. Those with severe social anxiety or just the ones not in the ‘popular’ cliques are too. LGBT+ clubs in schools are not full of boys in Year 11- being an openly gay young man is still very, very rare in most schools because sadly homophobia is still rife in our wider society. It’s even easier to say you’re trans as a boy! Being a confident, popular Year 11 girl is still virtually impossible without fitting into a strict set of social rules with the correct hair, nails, eyelashes, weight etc.

Far from breaking social rules and freeing young people up to be who they want to be, the trans agenda is forcing gay young people back into the closet and setting feminism back years and years. Vulnerable young girls are the ones questioning their identity, them and adult men with autogynephila and other kinks. Sadly, on the internet, these two groups collide and we now find ourselves in a world where ‘minor attracted’ (their term- not mine)men, many dressed in traditionally female clothing and wearing makeup feel confident enough to be open-twitter.com/norautd/status/1616952730211258368?s=46&t=LPVZDUu7KgwR_T7PGI0qLg
Of course trans people exist and their very specific issues should be respected and supported but not to the detriment of the rights of women, these are fragile and sporadic in this country and especially worldwide.

What was the effect of YouTube Kids if you don't mind me asking?

I'll come back to this later but I'd urge all to look at nationalonlinesafety.com/

They have good posters on key apps and games that give you the safety lowdown. Local schools use them.

For me a key red flag is anything that allows chat online.

Also need to consider that completely sheltering kids from online stuff means they either try to access secretly or don't learn online safety skills. It's a hard and fine balance but open dialogue and understanding boundaries is important. A local IT consultant who advises schools advocates for playing games with your kids, being interested and keeping dialogue open. Setting ground rules and getting monitoring apps.

We are in a 3 tier schooling area and kids seem to get phones earlier as they seem to walk to and from school at an earlier age. Peer pressure is hard. We've agreed in his group of mates that we will be getting round this by not buying them or with old fashioned non screen phones for a bit till they're older just for texting whereabouts.

Trans people exist.

Whole thing is based on sexist ideals though.

Can't teach children about trans without being very sexist. When we are really trying to un pick sexism and smash gender stereotypes. Because they're damaging for both sexes.

@Ameadowwalk - young people often used to be gender nonconforming yet not question their actual sex. It was happening years ago, so hardly new.

What is happening now is contrived femininity = femaleness and the same with males. Wearing lots of pink and glitter does not make anyone female, never has, never will.

I see young people going on about hating labels and the promptly slapping loads on to themselves. Now, why are they doing that?

There's genuine social issues in the world like people living on the breadline, racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia

Very amused that transphobia is in there as if it is some massive problem affecting society.😁

None of the inequalities in the world are helped by people trying to deny reality, or by endlessly labelling themselves. Identitarian politics is the most divisive, trivial nonsense that allows people to virtue-signal they're doing something (because they are aware of microaggressions or pronouns) while the real stuff that actually improves people's lives - primarily economic policies that would improve people's material lives - are ignored.

These educational policies contribute to societal divisions and, I would argue, make kids more anxious. What kids need is community, based in real life, and a sense of having a place in the world. Not online 'rainbow families' that are the ultimate echo chamber and serve a deeply sinister purpose - breaking up the family unit and alienating kids from their natural support system.

My 14 son is benefitting from home tuition via various members of my family , who are highly numerate and qualified professionals in the sciences. I am multilingual so I coach my kids in that respect. But this is mainly due to the standard of education he receives at school.

I know that, as my clarification said - I was trying to explain that it was not the case that all young women who did not fit today’s stereotypical ideas of gender labelled themselves as non-binary or trans (or felt the need to).

"There's genuine social issues in the world like people living on the breadline, racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia."

Fixed it for you!

You ask me why it's a problem and my basic response is that I live in biological reality. I want my child to share that reality.

I don't think indulging fantasies is healthy in the long-run. I mean that psychologically but obviously, there are physical ramifications to following this doctrine too.