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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

India Willoughby: I am more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be

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NotTerfNorCis · 23/01/2023 12:54

India has stated this on Twitter.

Doesn't it tell us a lot about how genderism rests on social stereotypes? How is India 'more of a woman' than someone born female?

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1617183552101048321?t=qgFTj7AwwiPi9tSKSyRsYQ&s=19

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Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 13:55

VaddaABeetch · 23/01/2023 13:14

India has purchased a cervix & will show it any day now so of course India is more womanly than a natural woman. Besides it’s because India says so & you’re all just jealous.

I wonder if India keeps it in the drawer or on a shelf? Handbag maybe?

terryleather · 23/01/2023 13:57

This kind of goady fuckery always reminds me of the bit in Alice In Wonderland with the pig and the pepper...there's a poem that ends:

"...he only does it to annoy because he knows it teases"

Deadringer · 23/01/2023 13:58

The replies seem to be overwhelming in favour of JKR which is a big turn around. Or at least in disagreement with India.

Aseagullatemybaby · 23/01/2023 13:59

Ooh ‘she’s’ got some balls

bellinisurge · 23/01/2023 14:08

@WarriorN - wow!!

Walrussy · 23/01/2023 14:08

I think sometimes people look at a transwoman who passes (and I think India can sometimes pass, with some very careful photography and if you can't hear the voice) and think job done. They forget that this person had to have their penis operated on and inverted and then had to dilate for hours a day for months on end. This person has to purchase/get a prescription for oestrogen because their own body will never produce the amounts needed to feminise. Then there's the vast amount of hair removal treatment, the facial surgery that involves sawing down brow and jawbones, the attempt to talk like a woman, often in that offensive falsetto. The decision about whether to freeze sperm. The sheer effort and technology and medicalisation that goes into attempting to replicate what a woman does naturally (whether she be Myra Hindley or Mother Theresa). Obviously you get the odd woman who goes down the obsessive plastic surgery and makeup route but it's not about passing as a woman.

And another thing that fucks me off is the downplaying of the biological processes that can't be aped by men. That insistence that they have periods "just not the bleeding bit" as though the bleeding is nothing. As someone who has bloodied a few chairs, the arrogance of it never fails to astound me, and yet it is so typical of the male default. The claim that "cis women are infertile too" often said by a transwoman who has fathered or had the capacity to father children. India will never need an abortion or menstruate or give birth. India will never have ovarian or cervical cancer.

And India's reaction to Karen Ingla Smith when they went on telly together to debate several years ago (he basically said, "I feel sorry for the men" when they were discussing murdered women) suggests he knows all this on a fundamental level.

senua · 23/01/2023 14:08

Is 'being a woman' now a competitive sport?Confused

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 14:08

Yeah? Nah!

This brings to mind

I think they doth protest too much.

bellinisurge · 23/01/2023 14:10

@WarriorN , think the Dark Side has got him and he's pulled it.

VaddaABeetch · 23/01/2023 14:12

@Boiledbeetle

indis Willoughby, keeps the cervix in a jar by the door,

what is for?

all the India delusions Where do they all come from?

All India fibs where do they all belong?

WarningToTheCurious · 23/01/2023 14:15

senua · 23/01/2023 14:08

Is 'being a woman' now a competitive sport?Confused

Only for those who don't tick all the right boxes.

I am no more and no less of an adult human female than any other adult human female.

(And no, a legal fiction enabling you to change a sex marker in official documents does not actually make you female).

DarkDayforMN · 23/01/2023 14:22

I can’t understand how it can be satisfying to make everyone laugh at you.

Attention seeking I understand, but this seems like seeking humiliation.

Hmm… now I’ve put it like that I think it might be best not to engage with it!

Choconut · 23/01/2023 14:23

You can't be more of a woman or less of a woman. You just either are a woman ioryou're not. And India is not.

DarkDayforMN · 23/01/2023 14:24

DialSquare · 23/01/2023 13:29

I love JKR's response!

HA.

She’s quick and ruthless!

WarriorN · 23/01/2023 14:24

bellinisurge · 23/01/2023 14:10

@WarriorN , think the Dark Side has got him and he's pulled it.

Bugger.

But he still thinks it!

YourWinter · 23/01/2023 14:25

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^ THIS ^

MarshaBradyo · 23/01/2023 14:26

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 23/01/2023 13:01

How would he know?

Exactly

DevilinaCardigan · 23/01/2023 14:27

senua · 23/01/2023 14:08

Is 'being a woman' now a competitive sport?Confused

Ooh like Top Trumps? toptrumps.us/products/great-women-top-trumps
Hmmmm... the categories are: Year of Birth, Power, Fame, Impact, Courage and Top Trump rating.
The only one where IW might beat JKR is year of birth (no idea how old either of them are) ... JKR beats IW in all of the other categories hands down.

Choconut · 23/01/2023 14:27

Did I see that JKR replied 'Citation needed' 😂

beastlyslumber · 23/01/2023 14:27

DialSquare · 23/01/2023 13:29

I love JKR's response!

Actual lol!

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caramac04 · 23/01/2023 14:30

This. Plus India Willoughby is a twat.

IcakedefargeIam · 23/01/2023 14:32

Can't have one, so got ta be one!

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