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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

India Willoughby: I am more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be

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NotTerfNorCis · 23/01/2023 12:54

India has stated this on Twitter.

Doesn't it tell us a lot about how genderism rests on social stereotypes? How is India 'more of a woman' than someone born female?

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1617183552101048321?t=qgFTj7AwwiPi9tSKSyRsYQ&s=19

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FrancescaContini · 23/01/2023 13:33

Yeah, of course

I have a feeling this is sarcasm, but I'm not sure. Link to YouTube video which has the clip of the person who said that: . It's a video from The Offensive Tranny, whose videos I occasionally watch. I just watched it yesterday, and I thought it was interesting that now I'm hearing IW said this.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 15:27

I can only imagine that Magdalen Berns' comment about better to be rude than a liar works very well here.

ArcaneWireless · 23/01/2023 15:31

The best part of that BB clip was AW’s face.

I would put money on my expression matching it.

I did buy an Annighty off the back of BB. In coral. And ruddy bloody comfy it was too.

Madamecastafiore · 23/01/2023 15:38

I think it's got to the stage now where we shouldn't have to be kind or understanding but can just refuse to acknowledge all this trans shit,and say no, no no no, regardless of how you dress, how you identify you are male, you don't have the right chromosomal make up to be anything else.

Just stop pandering to all this utter bollocks.

DialSquare · 23/01/2023 15:40

ArcaneWireless · 23/01/2023 15:31

The best part of that BB clip was AW’s face.

I would put money on my expression matching it.

I did buy an Annighty off the back of BB. In coral. And ruddy bloody comfy it was too.

I thought that at the time. You know she's not buying into this bollocks.

IcakedefargeIam · 23/01/2023 15:43

'The Offensive Tr*nny' seems so sweet.

Just a reminder, please follow the link to sign and share the Equality Act petition, to keep single sex spaces and services single sex, especially for vulnerable women and girls

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4668404-update-the-equality-act-to-make-clear-the-characteristic-sex-is-biological-sex

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 23/01/2023 15:45

Of course, the TRAS on Twitter are now saying that Rowlings response is “clearly transphobic” even though it was India who kicked things off and commented on Rowlings womanhood. How is asking for proof that India is more of a woman “transphobic” ? I too would be interested to know why India thinks they are more of a woman!

Is that truly what they expect? That they can make any kinds of threats and nasty accusations - and then if anybody they attack simply tries to defend themselves in response, that makes them the baddie?

I'm imagining a whole load of burglars seeking a class action against all the wicked nasty people installing security cameras and mortise locks, purely as a 'hateful' reaction to them going about their 'honourable' daily lives.

Sparklybutold · 23/01/2023 15:50

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BruceAndNosh · 23/01/2023 15:52

AllOfThemWitches · 23/01/2023 13:47

I'm not wearing a dress but I am menstruating. What am I?

An unclean witch who should be shunned.
Real Women like India don't do stuff like that

ClearRunning · 23/01/2023 15:58

Imagine monitoring this thread just waiting for posts to report. 🤭

ArcaneWireless · 23/01/2023 16:04

Having just rewatched the documentary on witches, you can probably bet that no one would have been clamouring to be recognised as a ‘real woman’ then.

If a time machine were to invented
and all women were transported back to the height of the witch hunts, I wonder how many would be quite so insistent in their declarations.

Notaflippinclue · 23/01/2023 16:05

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 23/01/2023 16:06

BruceAndNosh · 23/01/2023 15:52

An unclean witch who should be shunned.
Real Women like India don't do stuff like that

Doesn’t India think women who don’t shave their legs are ‘dirty’?

some seriously disordered thinking about women right there

MarshaBradyo · 23/01/2023 16:07

It’s a certain type of arrogance from a particular sex to think you can define another sex in this way

MarshaBradyo · 23/01/2023 16:08

It feels like we’re being bullied. Trans men don’t do this to men because they’d get a backlash too severe.

hamstersarse · 23/01/2023 16:09

I'd really like our pal India to do a AMA - we can have a chat like real women

BruceAndNosh · 23/01/2023 16:09

I'm really bad at womaning

HootyMcboob76 · 23/01/2023 16:10

Wow this thread is swiss cheese.
I can only assume that there was a lot of discussion of provable, actual science and biology, perhaps some physiology and anatomy, maybe chromosomes?

You know, facts?

Isn't it odd how (apart from one or two vocal) transmen are not the ones leading this assault on women and their language?
It's almost as if lopping body parts off and ingesting cross sex hormones doesn't actually change the male socialisation and tendency towards violent conflict.

Bizarre.

Giggorata · 23/01/2023 16:11

Performing femininity isn't being a woman.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 23/01/2023 16:11

MarshaBradyo · 23/01/2023 16:08

It feels like we’re being bullied. Trans men don’t do this to men because they’d get a backlash too severe.

Yes, an interesting mix of female socialisation in transmen and awareness of the consequences from pissed off men if they tried it, seems to be keeping transmen from being nearly as batshit crazy in their assertions.

MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 23/01/2023 16:12

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Jarnsaxa · 23/01/2023 16:15

X'plain
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hamstersarse · 23/01/2023 16:15

My friend's daughter got raped a few months ago. It reminded me, despite the fact I knew it because of my own historical DV, of the absolute need to be nowhere near men in the aftermath.

I could not be around men (and I am just a family friend), her mother could not be around her own husband because he was male, and when the police sent round two burly policemen to talk to her after a specific request for a female officer, she shut down again for a few days losing crucial evidence. This is a visceral primal reaction of which you have no control over as a woman.

When I am reminded of what it means to actually be a woman at that level, it makes me angry to my core that people like India Willoughby are the way they are about women's rights.

MrsMitford3 · 23/01/2023 16:16

I saw it on twitter as well.

I was unable to look at India's timeline as I am blocked-having never interacted or so much as looked at India's tweets. I assume India has mass blocked everyone following JK.

When you have to live in an echo chamber-surrounding yourself only with ppl who agree with you you must not feel very sure about the actual validity of your argument...