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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

India Willoughby: I am more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be

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NotTerfNorCis · 23/01/2023 12:54

India has stated this on Twitter.

Doesn't it tell us a lot about how genderism rests on social stereotypes? How is India 'more of a woman' than someone born female?

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1617183552101048321?t=qgFTj7AwwiPi9tSKSyRsYQ&s=19

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PonyPatter44 · 23/01/2023 20:04

Is Kemi Badenoch really endorsed by Britain First??? Have they not looked at a photo of her?

Sorry, not trying to derail the conversation. I've never seen that big brother clip before, and its blinding obvious that the person in the sunglasses is male, despite all their aggressive hectoring. I am particularly pleased by AW's expression, and by the woman I cant identify who just keeps swigging the Pinot Grigio throughout the whole rant!

Abccde · 23/01/2023 20:13

IW complains that there is never any Trans representation on TV.

There have been loads of Trans representatives on TV / radio this last week or so.

IW did the section with Helen Joyce? What else has IW done?

I suspect this is someone trolling trying to raise their profile. Who better to do it with than trying to start a fight with JKR?

I am not sure that IW has realised that many people perceive IW to have Right wing views that could be considered extreme and this may be why IW is not getting the TV jobs.

BellaAmorosa · 23/01/2023 20:14

DarkDayforMN · 23/01/2023 17:10

I really can't stomach the way these activists focus on one race of women in particular to deny that they are women in the same way as every other adult human female. It's disgusting.

And you'd think even the most dyed in the wool rabid transactivist would be able to concede that adult human females of any race are women in exactly the same way as each other, while "trans women are women" in a way that's maybe just a teensy bit different. But apparently acknowledging that would be too much grace for them to display, they've got to go balls out racist every time.

Exactly. They show their racist selves up every time.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 20:19

They show their racist selves up every time.

They do. On these threads. Time and time again....

Vebrithien · 23/01/2023 20:19

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 23/01/2023 19:24

Interestingly, my autocorrect doesn't recognise transwoman as a word, and suggests transplant as the alternative...

Can a cow, pig or sheep identify (or be vicariously identified) as a transplant, so that apparent omnivores can still eat them, but actually be fully accepted and celebrated as vegans?

Transplants.

Oh goodness.

Can't breathe properly 😂

Never thought of it that way before!

Blister · 23/01/2023 20:20

Lol. Toxic masculinity is trying to find its place in the female world. Mate, we don't do that here. 😂

DarkDayforMN · 23/01/2023 20:35

Everyone knows women are adult human females, whether they admit it or not.

Saying that TW aren’t women is simply denying the “female” part, entirely accurately.

You have to wonder… what part of “adult human female” are the TRAs denying in black women, when they claim it’s equivalent to say the same of them?

Madamecastafiore · 23/01/2023 20:44

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Notaflippinclue · 23/01/2023 20:49

Toxic masculinity? They're scared to use male spaces for fear of being harassed. LOL

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 20:52

Notaflippinclue · 23/01/2023 20:49

Toxic masculinity? They're scared to use male spaces for fear of being harassed. LOL

They aren't scared. They want to be validatedd which is why they use the women's. So now we get to be actually scared but they get to be validated. Yay men!

Fuck that men are not and will never be women.

wonderstuff · 23/01/2023 20:57

I’m intrigued by the parameters for more/less woman?

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 21:00

I want to say 6 inches

CampervanKween · 23/01/2023 21:00

Absolutely agree. The time for pretence is long gone. No matter what cosmetic "mutilations" as Professor Robert Winston puts it, a person goes through they will never change sex.

"He said: 'There is no question that we can change our gender, we can do it by mutilating ourselves, we can do it by removing bits of our body and therefore change our shape and so on.

'But you can't change your sex, because that is embedded actually in those (a person's) genes in every cell in the body, that's the difference."

WarningToTheCurious · 23/01/2023 21:12

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 21:00

I want to say 6 inches

Think you’re being generous there.

Boiledbeetle · 23/01/2023 21:16

WarningToTheCurious · 23/01/2023 21:12

Think you’re being generous there.

Well...I'm not a cruel woman. But I'm also shit at converting what's an inch? 1.5 cm??

😏

EwwSprouts · 23/01/2023 21:18

What a fanciful imagination India has.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 23/01/2023 21:18

PonyPatter44 · 23/01/2023 20:04

Is Kemi Badenoch really endorsed by Britain First??? Have they not looked at a photo of her?

Sorry, not trying to derail the conversation. I've never seen that big brother clip before, and its blinding obvious that the person in the sunglasses is male, despite all their aggressive hectoring. I am particularly pleased by AW's expression, and by the woman I cant identify who just keeps swigging the Pinot Grigio throughout the whole rant!

I have no idea whether it's true or not. Britain First's site/facebook page isn't an area of the internet I frequent.

That said, as I saw IW's post go viral on twitter (and other forms of social media), it did occur to me that any public endorsement from Britain First was likely to result in a net loss of votes for the lucky one. It's reputational poison. It also occurred to me that the leader of Britain First knew that too. What if he wanted to use his group to ensure we didn't get a black woman as prime minister?

How many members of Britain First are there? How many could there be who pay subs to the Conservative party and had the right to participate in the leadership election? Seems to me that Britain First's biggest weapon in the conservative leadership election was the negative publicity they would bring to any selected candidate. I really do think the leader(s?) could be aware of that.

So well done, all those people who desperately tried to signal their anti-racism by condemning Kemi Badenoch on the strength of IW's post. Thanks for quite possibly playing into a campaign to block a black woman from becoming prime minister, just because she was a black woman.

PizzaNinja · 23/01/2023 21:43

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WallaceinAnderland · 23/01/2023 21:49

Notaflippinclue · 23/01/2023 20:49

Toxic masculinity? They're scared to use male spaces for fear of being harassed. LOL

If that were true, they wouldn't be trying to invite all men into our female spaces would they.

Blister · 23/01/2023 21:50

Notaflippinclue · 23/01/2023 20:49

Toxic masculinity? They're scared to use male spaces for fear of being harassed. LOL

I think it needs pointing out that one of the fears is someone saying "they are not man enough". Which is the exact sentiment being vomited here. Internalised toxic masculinity is still toxic even if one is afraid of it. Women have their own internalised issues. This one needs to be dealt with where it came from.

VioletLemon · 23/01/2023 22:00

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UrsulaPandress · 23/01/2023 22:02

I did and was deleted.

Helleofabore · 23/01/2023 22:22

Blimey. I just saw someone have a go at Sarah Phillimore for ‘degendering’ White by using ‘they’. The purity spiral seems to be tightening. I do think this new tighter layer will start to cause tensions to start snapping even more than we have noticed since the Scottish government passed the bill.

DietCock · 23/01/2023 22:25

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WarningToTheCurious · 23/01/2023 22:26

UrsulaPandress · 23/01/2023 22:02

I did and was deleted.

I wondered how long the @VioletLemon post would stand. 25 minutes. The monitors must have been on a tea break.