“You don’t get to decide whether you’re transphobic or not and you don’t get to decide you’re an ally”

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Then who does?

This was said to me by a transman when I said that buying a video game (hogwarts legacy) doesn’t define a persons morals and personal beliefs (because let’s face it, nothings really ethical unless you live off the grid completely) which of course was met with a stream of abuse and how I don’t care about trans lives.

I pointed out that actually I do, I am gender critical and I don’t think JK Rowling is transphobic but I also appreciate that trans people do face danger and need protection and I also think they have a right to be who they want to be. I’m also part of the lgbtq community and donate to the local youth club (I’ll admit it’s not just the trans people who benefit from my donation but it helps the whole community).

Am I wrong in thinking that the trans community are actually causing more harm to themselves with this game boycott because judging by the pre order sales (and the millions of people that visit HP world and theme parks and buys all the merch) that actually there isn’t a lot of people on their side and by telling people what they can and can’t do, saying they’re transphobic etc for simply buying a game or spending their money isn’t making the point they think it is?

It just really made me think about what the end goal is here, do they really think being treat as the biological sex they identify with, will help them?

Imagine if we all said okay trans men are men and trans women are women and we’ll treat them like such - trans men will be put into male prisons and wards (imagine how that’ll go), medical treatment will be restricted only to biological sex so if you’re a transman you can’t have smears because men don’t have a cervix etc obviously it’s absolutely ridiculous and won’t happen but I just don’t see the benefit of the whole “transwomen are women” stance, I think they sound be treat as trans people and we look at options for them like a third toilet option or a third sports category etc something that will benefit them without causing harm to biological men and women.

Sorry I went onto a bit of a rant, I’ve never considered myself to be transphobic but I guess if it’s not something I can decide for myself then who knows.

Not a Hatty Potter fan but I'm buying Hogworts Legacy for my switch, not because I'm transphobic but because I'm sick of bigots telling me not to.

The FtM trans person I'm acquainted with has informed me they can't use women's toilets because they look like a man (they don't) and they're at risk in men's toilets so they will be using disabled ones.

They've me told I'm transphobic whan I said I thought that was wrong.

Well I'm happy to be a transphobe if it means defending a genuinely marginalised group of people over a fit and healthy young woman who wants her breasts cut off and is taking testosterone.

Exactly! A man can say he's a woman, a woman can say she's a man, a teenager with blue hair of either sex can say they don't have a sex, they can make up all sorts of claims such as 'sex is a spectrum' or 'you don't know what your sex is because you haven't had your chromosones analysed' (But obviously don't suggest that trans people could have their chromosones anlysed to check their 'real' sex) Having a period is a state of mind, transwomen will one day give birth etc etc.

However - you - as a lowly woman who isn't under the magical sparkly umbrella of trans may not say or define anything.

Plus I've just added Aretha Franklin, Natural Woman to my playlist so I'll be even more of a transphobe!

There’s no such thing as transphobia. It’s a made up term to protect a made up ideology.

It’s a way of shutting people up, which they had to because the whole thing falls apart with the slightest scrutiny.

It’s been an effective tool to stop people talking to each other about it for a while now, but it’s lost its power. I’ve started being openly ‘transphobic*’ and it’s not as scary as I thought, it turns out almost everybody is but we were all too scared of abuse to admit it.

*transphobic here is stating men can’t be women; men shouldn’t be in women’s spaces, transing children is wrong etc.

You can’t compare racism to transphobia.
racism is based off opinions, ‘transphobia’ is based on scientific fact.

I treat everybody with respect and couldn’t care less how someone is living their life or what parts they have down below compared to how they dress and identify. But do I believe we can change our sex? No. We cant, it’s biologically imprinted.
Dressing and behaving like a cat does not make me a cat even if I identify as so and I don’t think that’s transphobic.
Not wanting female only spaces to be opened up to trans people isn’t transphobic either as much as it isn’t not allowing trans people to take part in sports of the gender they’re identifying with.

This is what confuses me about the whole trans movement, I try and be as supportive as I can but they want to be treat as the biological men and women that they identify as but with special exceptions meaning they’re not being treat the same and it goes against the whole idea of it?

I was speaking to a transman about how I really don’t agree with transwomen sex offender specifically being put into a women’s prison and they said it’s a myth that transwomen will hurt women (…) but if they were arrested they would want to be in a male prison but in a separate secluded area (for obvious reasons) but then that means being treat different, treat like a transman and not a man but you want to be treat like a biological man?

I don’t really understand it all but the more I try and educate myself, the more blurred it gets.

It’s also WILD how they scream transphobia while stating some of the most racist, homophobic and misogynistic guff I’ve ever heard.

Nah, it’s not working any more. The spell is broken and the emperor is a naked pervert.

Yesterday [female and they know they are] Scottish MPs stood proudly in front of a sign saying that TERFs need to be beheaded.

So we just call people the sex they are and they know they are and that's enough to call for us to be beheaded?

Ok pal, the gloves are off.

The FtM I've mentioned is insistent they are in fact a gay man but doesn't want to be called he/him but they/they're.

They also, this is the strange thing, hate men, almost fearful of them so I can't get my head around it.

<shrug>

You don't get to define your sex or other people's reality either.

Yes I feel like this, no more sitting back anymore, if it's acceptable to make threats then the gloves are well and truly off.

You don't decide you can just use disabled facilities just because you're reality is skewed.

Just in case anyone missed it and is wondering-

news.stv.tv/west-central/police-scotland-launches-probe-into-hateful-sign-calling-for-decapitation-at-gender-rally-in-glasgow

I’m curious, if a FtM person is imprisoned but they don’t want to be housed in the male estate, where do they want to be placed?

According to the transman I spoke to, he would like to be imprisoned on the make estate but in a secluded area just for him.

Male

This is what happens when people’s egos are so fragile and their whole identity is built around everyone else’s total compliance with their own view of themselves.
The psychology of it is quite interesting. The ideology itself is just batshit crazy and transphobia now means whatever a trans person says it means.

What @EmpressOfTheSofa said. The word transphobe/transphobia is used to silence people. No-one wants to be thought of as horrid or bigoted or whatever, so the word had power. It is, to coin a phrase a "thought terminating cliche". Transphobia bears zero resemblance to homophobia which is what people are really worried about. I have stopped caring if the word is used for me. I just shrug at the lobbing of the T word. The silencing only works if you allow it to.

I’ve read a lot in this subject but your post is absolutely right isn’t it!! Complete cherry picking of the areas that suit but otherwise a demand to be treated as their biological sex. That’s a complete mind fuck isn’t it?!

Bloody hell. And that news story took me through to the link where Sturgeon was reported to talking about not seeing why the age to purchase alcohol shouldn't be reduced to 16.... (obviously backtracking now!)

And of course some of it stems from that group of males who identify as women that we’re not allowed to name and their narcissistic rage when people won’t comply with their fantasy (and that is exactly what it is). Stating the truth entirely spoils the pleasure they get from validation because they’re no longer being validated.

Anyone else remember this?
www.google.co.uk/search?q=its+maam&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari

So if I wore a t-shirt with ‘CIS AND PROUD’ printed on it, would I be displaying my pride that I’m a woman, or, that I’m supposedly a transphobe?

So, away from the male people then?

Ooh see now that’s an interesting thought experiment. Because you’d be simultaneously agreeing with their ideology (Cis) while also being proud to be a woman (which is, of course, transphobic.

Some heads would explode.

Good analogy !