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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Canada: TW in a female only gym

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Tabitha1960 · 19/01/2023 18:26

I was particularly interested in this comment:

"She says she has previously worked out at co-ed gyms and never felt comfortable because it was mostly men in the facilities."

And yet STILL has no sympathy with natal women who don't feel comfortable with men there! The hypocrisy is staggering.

Very pleased to see a man, Dale Nagra, the owner of Bodyworks Fitness, sticking up for natal females.

“We want [trans] to be comfortable, but we also have to worry about the young girls that this gym is set up for and the women, and how are their parents gonna feel that they’re in there, then this person walks in with a male voice and big person,” Nagra said.

“So now you pick the comfort of the male who identifies as a woman…and then anybody can go in there saying, ‘OK, I identify as a woman, and I want to be able to go in there.’

And so, do we pick the comfort of the transgender person, and they may not be as comfortable with the co-ed gym but at least that’s an alternative, or do we pick the comfort of the young girls that are working out there that might not feel comfortable?”

www.cheknews.ca/transgender-woman-told-she-is-not-allowed-to-use-women-only-gym-in-parksville-1134924/

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EndlessTea · 19/01/2023 18:32

The entitlement.

NecessaryScene · 19/01/2023 18:32

Twitter thread from Jon Kay on it:

twitter.com/jonkay/status/1616101025827508228

This Kendall Hanson CHEK_News interview is beyond belief. The gym has a co-ed section, but this person specifically demands entrance to the woman's-only section because that would make them prove their belief that they're dealing with a "real woman"

Kendall presents this as news, not as satire, despite its eerie resemblance to Emily Howard's efforts to use the ladies' pool in Little Britain ...

What's incredible is how profoundly anti-feminist all of this is. These biological males clearly see the women around them as props whose role in life is to affirm their gender dysphoric conceits. It's a complete betrayal of women

Watch the video before they delete it. The whole thing is one of these case studies we'll be discussing a decade from now, when we try to figure out how so many journalists fell for this mania in the first place

the accusation is always that gender dissidents are engaging in "hate." But when u watch this sad little video, the dominant emotion isn't hate. It's pity. This is a confused, depressed person with many issues. But it's not women's job to become the solution for male problems

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/01/2023 18:33

That gym guy sounds refreshingly sensible.

IcakethereforeIam · 19/01/2023 18:33

I think the tw is looking at legal action, if it gets the far (because tras) I don't think the gym stands a chance. Canada, or a small but powerful minority, is totally genderwoo.

Boiledbeetle · 19/01/2023 18:42

"I didn't know i was trans at the time i still thought i was a guy" talking about not being comfortable around the men whilst at university.

But but but it's innate you just know you've always known since being young, is that not the case now? You can literally wake up one day and decide nope, I've always thought i was a guy but today i am a woman?

Why do they keep changing the rules?

Norma27 · 19/01/2023 18:44

I actually have no words.
Apart from how dare he tell vulnerable women to educate themselves into accepting males into female spaces.

BreatheAndFocus · 19/01/2023 18:47

All the women should refuse to go to that session if the TW is there. The TW must know that their presence is unwanted and making people uncomfortable, but they push ahead anyway.

Why don’t they try inserting themselves elsewhere? Perhaps in a religious institution of a religion they don’t belong to? Maybe a school? No, of course not. It’s only women who aren’t allowed to define themselves and have anything for themselves.

The TW should go to a mixed session. They can then ‘be a woman’ but not impinge on others’ rights to a single sex group. Unless of course it’s all about the validation….

Ameanstreakamilewide · 19/01/2023 18:58

BreatheAndFocus · 19/01/2023 18:47

All the women should refuse to go to that session if the TW is there. The TW must know that their presence is unwanted and making people uncomfortable, but they push ahead anyway.

Why don’t they try inserting themselves elsewhere? Perhaps in a religious institution of a religion they don’t belong to? Maybe a school? No, of course not. It’s only women who aren’t allowed to define themselves and have anything for themselves.

The TW should go to a mixed session. They can then ‘be a woman’ but not impinge on others’ rights to a single sex group. Unless of course it’s all about the validation….

The presence of the women/unwilling participants is all part of the wank fodder.

BethDuttonsTwin · 19/01/2023 19:00

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/01/2023 18:33

That gym guy sounds refreshingly sensible.

He does, but we know the Canadian Government is not sensible when it’s comes to trans issues. I hope he isn’t forced to back down.

Wellies54 · 19/01/2023 19:03

Perhaps a couple of things need to be explained to him; 1) the women are not uncomfortable with a trans person going to their female only sessions, they are uncomfortable with a male being there. 2) Why not go to the mixed gym session because your presence at the women only session MAKES it MIXED SEX! ( Or will he only be happy if he is the only male allowed? A special validation group just for him?)

I take my hat off to that brave and sensible gym owner.

Tabitha1960 · 19/01/2023 19:03

I think some young girls would find the TW rather intimidating.

Canada: TW in a female only gym
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Riapia · 19/01/2023 19:04

This is a confused, depressed person with many issues.

I disagree, he’s an arrogant bully.

DarkDayforMN · 19/01/2023 19:13

But when u watch this sad little video, the dominant emotion isn't hate. It's pity.

not me. I felt fear. Look at the size of him! Look how angry he is! Think of all the gyms that would happily let him in. Even the men that get it don’t get it.

FriendofJoanne · 19/01/2023 19:18

“I fell out of it in university because I was just kind of intimidated being around a bunch of mostly really buff guys at the university gym,” Klyne-Simpson said in an interview with CHEK News. “So finding a ladies gym was something that seemed really exciting, and now that I’m out, I understand why I was uncomfortable at the other place.”

Of course they felt intimidated working out with buff men, I feel intimidated working out with buff men and women, coz I'm not and nor is "Brigid" 🙄It doesn't make Brigid a woman.

IcakethereforeIam · 19/01/2023 19:24

Not pity, self entitled.

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Meaning what?

WildIris · 19/01/2023 19:33

Goddess, that ‘woman’ couldn’t look more male if ‘she’ tried!

Cheekymaw · 19/01/2023 19:37

An entitled bully. Good on the gym owner. Sadly, I bet he will be forced to back down,it being Tranada and all.

Delphinium20 · 19/01/2023 19:47

Tabitha1960 · 19/01/2023 19:03

I think some young girls would find the TW rather intimidating.

My god! Not pity, not hate. Fear. There are some men a young athletic woman may feel she could run from or defend herself from but NO woman and a lot of men would lose in a fight with that person. He could kill by simply falling down on someone. How can even the most TW are vulnerable folks not see the disparities!!!

Delphinium20 · 19/01/2023 19:53

Also good on the gym owner for asking the Staniland Question. He may not know Helen coined that, but "how would you feel if it were your daughters" is exactly what needs to be said over and over.

BoredOfThisMansWorld · 19/01/2023 19:58

Tabitha1960 · 19/01/2023 19:03

I think some young girls would find the TW rather intimidating.

No fucking shit. The sheer size of him. Oh great, he's also looking to gain fitness and muscle. I'd be utterly terrified to find him in the changing room.

Thesonglastslonger · 19/01/2023 20:17

I think he’s be a lot happier doing Dungeons and Dragons or doing medieval reenactments or something like that.

Hepwo · 19/01/2023 20:17

It's as if these men are locked in a 1950s timewarp were not feeling masculine enough means you are not a real man, you have a lady brain.

Why are we not just telling the Rigid Brigids of the 21st century that they are never going to be a woman and it's okay to be a non masculine man?

I'm so over this old fashioned stupidity.

NotBadConsidering · 19/01/2023 20:21

The gym owner who spoke sensibly is lucky that’s he’s

a) not a nurse and
b) a man

otherwise he’s be facing disciplinary action for such perfectly sensible comments.

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