Is anyone else watching the debate in the HOC live now?

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Gripping stuff. Unfortunately I've missed the 1st 30 minutes, and I'm hoping I can catch up.

The Lloyd Russell-Moyle video has had thousands of views on Twitter, people must be sharing it far and wide. The vast majority of comments are absolutely slating him.

I think it may have been Karin Smyth - I've seen her name mentioned as having stood up for women's rights.

He deserves every bit of it as well. Odious little gobshites like him need to realise how insane they sound.

And zero mention of it on any BBC news I've seen or heard tonight. Thank God for Twitter!

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Just in case anyone would like to comment personally to him on his performance today.

LRM... What an odious man. How dare he speak to Miriam Cate like that when she shared a frightening experience, and then he claims he spoke like that because he was emotional. Pathetic! He's the one who said JKR had weaponised her trauma when she asked to retain single sex spaces 😡

The individual votes are interesting. For example, Crispin Blunt voted Aye. Both Kemi and Rishi have no vote recorded.

votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/1449#ayes

@OvaHere i think when they know they are going to easily win, they don’t always vote, they may have had meetings etc.

That could be the case.

I think some of the voting shows it was considered by some as a constitutional matter regardless of the subject matter. Blunt is a massive TRA and he's retiring next election yet he did still vote in favour.

Other notable Aye's are Fabricant, Mordaunt, Freer, Keegan all who are at least moderately TRA.

Other abstentions which I doubt were because of other commitments were Wallis (first trans MP!),Miller and Nokes.

Interesting. No Tory MPs voted no and the majority of Labour abstained.

Well the Welsh only managed three noes, so no appetite there for it

Exactly. I’ve always thought this. If you are not allowed to ask then how can they be excluded. No one is going to risk asking - not worth losing one’s career over it.

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but wasn't the 'fascist baby' TRA a policy advisor for Russell-Moyle?

Yes!

the majority of Labour abstained.

It's very interesting considering the rather higher turnout for Bills that are equally or less contentions.

Almost as if they didn't want to be recorded as being on either side of history.

The majority of Labour abstained. And quite a few of them hectored Rosie Duffield.

So I wrote to my conservative MP 're the GRR Bill and wanting Westminster to step in 're section 35 and got a rather strange rambling letter in return that was about 80% pompom waving for the LGBT+ group as, he informed me, he was a member of this group.and how they were the most vulnerable blah blah blah

So i was very shocked to discover his name on the aye list for yesterday. I thought he would have at least abstained from voting.. Maybe i wasnt the only person sending him some of the map of anger screenshots! And warnings of the fact women are rather pissed off.

Penny Mordaunt voting Aye. She's such a massive hypocritical wanker

Today, LRM has said he's written to Cates to apologise for the tone but not the words he used. Still said she had an "abhorrent view".

He's an awful little toad, isn't he? I've just been watching his demented speech on the other thread, where he says he'll fight them in the streets. He definitely comes across as unhinged, with his voice increasing in pitch and volume, with every sentence.

Starmer really should be disciplining him, but as I can only hold my breath for a minute, I won't.

He reiterates a few times how cross he still is about her speech. The speech in which she said she was intimidated by a man in an enclosed space and was frightened. Why does he need to keep saying he finds her words abhorrent?

It's like the whole jkr thing again. No one can be clear which exact statement is the problem. And anyone reading it themselves can't find the transphobic bit.

Who does deal with conduct in the HoC because it's seems there's a code that was definitely broken yesterday -

17.Members shall never undertake any action which would cause significant damage to the reputation and integrity of the House of Commons as a whole, or of its Members generally.

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18.A Member must treat their staff and all those visiting or working for or with Parliament with dignity, courtesy and respect.

I don't actually know; I thought it was the Speaker who initiated action. Perhaps they need a complaint from the affected party?

I was watching it and, if memory serves, the Deputy Speaker Rosie Winterton was in the Chair and weak as dishwater. After Russell Llyod-Moyle had finished his deranged, unhinged and vicious contribution it took a 'helpful question' from Father of the House Peter Bottomley to wake Winterton from her torpor and acknowledge the travesty that had just occurred.

Really interesting that Peter Bottomley asked for specifics of which bit of what was said was transphobic..

This wasn't clarified or provided

And now LRM, even in his apology, gets to perpetuate the idea that something that was said was transphobic, without specifying which bit.

And now Ben Bradshaw also defends LRM and his own heckling as "calling out transphobia" ...but doesn't say what that was?

Oh god, “calling out”. How fucking juvenile from a Member of Parliament.