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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Maggie Chapman doesn't know what sex she is

125 replies

Abccde · 16/01/2023 20:34

But she isn't trans............

Please make this make sense.

Maggie hen, I think you are a loony, I think you have thrown women under the bus, but you are as much a woman as I am.

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ComfortablyDazed · 16/01/2023 22:25

Wow, the stuttering is a sound to behold!

She knows in her heart of hearts she’s wrong.

No - there has never been an example of someone successfully changing sex.

Gender - sure, because it’s a made-up concept that exists only in our heads, and as words. I can change my gender from second to second without doing anything.

Sex - no.

KatMcBundleFace · 16/01/2023 22:34

I've got PCOS maggie, are you calling me a man?
Do you know how sensitive women with PCOS can be about their symptoms?

Thing is, Maggie, gender ideology has made a laughing stock out of you. You deserve that, for throwing women under a bus.

Fenlandia · 16/01/2023 22:41

Abccde · 16/01/2023 20:34

But she isn't trans............

Please make this make sense.

Maggie hen, I think you are a loony, I think you have thrown women under the bus, but you are as much a woman as I am.

nitter.pussthecat.org/TomSwarbrick1/status/1615059702802485260#m

You can't her 'hen' when she might be a rooster and you've just mischickened her 😆

Aphrathestorm · 16/01/2023 22:55

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if MC has XY chromosomes and has AIS/CAIS.

It would explain her stance on trans.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 16/01/2023 23:00

She's worked in women-only organisations though- that must have been very dissonant for the wee lamb

Skyellaskerry · 16/01/2023 23:02

LBC from 11pm on this subject referring to a car crash interview …. I wonder who it might be!

DdraigGoch · 16/01/2023 23:07

Keeps rabbiting on about how children are allowed to marry and vote in Scotland. Does she support child marriage? Scotland is pretty much the only country in Europe where children can marry without consent of either their parents or a court. The trend is to abolish even these exceptions and impose a blanket minimum age of 18.

DdraigGoch · 16/01/2023 23:12

Just noticed that the law changed in England & Wales last year, so they joined the growing list of countries applying a blanket no U18 marriage rule. Scotland really is the outlier here.

AutumnCrow · 16/01/2023 23:14

So Maggie thinks chromosomes DO indicate sex? Or not? I'm never entirely sure with Maggie.

Also, does she seriously think that no SNP or Green politician or their female partners have ever heard of or used a test called amniocentesis?

scratchedbymycat · 16/01/2023 23:15

Igneococcus · 16/01/2023 21:13

The "we don't know our chromosomal make up" bullshit really pisses me off. Maggie, love, if there were unexpectedly large discrepancies between what we think people's chromosomes sets should be and what they are in reality we would have noticed by now because we biologist sequence genomes all the bloody time now, it's so cheap and fast and simple and there are a gazillion companies that offer sequencing and basic annotation as a service we don't even have to do it ourselves in our labs anymore.

The way she said that made me think she believed there was a whole smorgasbord of chromosomes out there and we each had an undefined mysterious selection. Like science hadn't quite grasped the mysteries of chromosomes yet. Totally bizarre.

AutumnCrow · 16/01/2023 23:15

DdraigGoch · 16/01/2023 23:12

Just noticed that the law changed in England & Wales last year, so they joined the growing list of countries applying a blanket no U18 marriage rule. Scotland really is the outlier here.

Yes. Child marriage is still legal in Scotland. I think this is the next area the Government should look at.

littlbrowndog · 16/01/2023 23:16

Och she is a bam

and we pay her to be a bam 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

GCMM · 16/01/2023 23:24

Strange that despite none of us having our chromosomes tested, we have successfully managed to procreate for millennia. I guess we can easily who's a woman and who's a man after all.

DdraigGoch · 16/01/2023 23:25

It's just batshit that she's using this backwards situation to justify her mad ideas.

Trivia question, would anyone like to hazard a guess at how many other countries in Europe also allow child marriage with no need to seek permission from a responsible adult?

LaughingPriest · 16/01/2023 23:32

Does she realise that if no-one knows what sex they are, no-one can actually be transgender? Is she trying to erase the existence of transgender people?

taracetamol · 17/01/2023 00:55

LaughingPriest · 16/01/2023 23:32

Does she realise that if no-one knows what sex they are, no-one can actually be transgender? Is she trying to erase the existence of transgender people?

No one knows, apart from trans people who 100% know...

Datun · 17/01/2023 01:27

LaughingPriest · 16/01/2023 23:32

Does she realise that if no-one knows what sex they are, no-one can actually be transgender? Is she trying to erase the existence of transgender people?

Quite. And I think he even asked, didn't he? Didn't he say how do you know you're not trans?

if she doesn't know what sex she is, she has no idea if she's a man identifying as a woman, or a woman identifying as a woman.

I have to say, I don't think I'll ever tire of listening to that interview. The batshittery out there, in all its glory.

NecessaryScene · 17/01/2023 06:37

if there were unexpectedly large discrepancies between what we think people's chromosomes sets should be and what they are in reality we would have noticed by now

And, also, logically, "GCSE Biology" wouldn't then be teaching that sex is determined by X/Y chromosomes, would it?

If something is taught in GCSE anything, it's because it's true, or at least as true as it needs to be for normal situations

A lot of these Dunning-Kruger idiots like to call things "GCSE xxx" implying that it's inaccurate. But the point is that all basic-level stuff in GCSEs is accurate, or there wouldn't be any point teaching it. You'd just leave it to higher level.

(Although, having made that argument, I realise that schools are teaching gender bollocks. But it's not actually a real course - it's being smuggled in from the sides).

FrancescaContini · 17/01/2023 07:10

Oh dear, Maggie. Do you know how babies are born? How have you navigated life into adulthood without knowing what sex you are? Do you apply for a chromosome test 🧐every time you need to use a public toilet or feel like having sex?

Please keep talking - or rather, stuttering your way through media interviews. You’re demonstrating in a marvellous way how the most basic of questions regarding gender ideology can’t actually be answered.

I’m waiting for her - or some other genderist loon - to say in an interview that it’s actually very complicated or sensitive because at that stage - of course - she’ll have neatly provided an answer as to why 16 year olds shouldn’t be allowed to change gender 🤪 because of course if it’s too complex a subject for an adult broadcast journalist to grasp, then how can a child understand the complexities of gender ideology that its supporters usually end up muttering about because they realise the whole damn idea doesn’t stack up.

ExiledElsie · 17/01/2023 07:19

NecessaryScene · 17/01/2023 06:37

if there were unexpectedly large discrepancies between what we think people's chromosomes sets should be and what they are in reality we would have noticed by now

And, also, logically, "GCSE Biology" wouldn't then be teaching that sex is determined by X/Y chromosomes, would it?

If something is taught in GCSE anything, it's because it's true, or at least as true as it needs to be for normal situations

A lot of these Dunning-Kruger idiots like to call things "GCSE xxx" implying that it's inaccurate. But the point is that all basic-level stuff in GCSEs is accurate, or there wouldn't be any point teaching it. You'd just leave it to higher level.

(Although, having made that argument, I realise that schools are teaching gender bollocks. But it's not actually a real course - it's being smuggled in from the sides).

Really good point. Some people seem to think that the fact that things get studied in more detail at higher levels mean the basics are wrong. They aren't, just often simpler models.

rogdmum · 17/01/2023 07:23

I had an amniocentesis done during both of my pregnancies. I also have a DD who is convinced she is a boy. Maggie presumably would also believe that my DD is also a boy on my DD’s say so. Would my amnio results be proof enough for Maggie that my DD actually is female? 🤷‍♀️

JulesJules · 17/01/2023 07:26

Blimey. She sounds absolutely deranged.

Holdmypint · 17/01/2023 07:40

Wow it's a miracle any babies are born when it's so difficult to work out if you're a man or a woman.

Musomama1 · 17/01/2023 07:59

IcakethereforeIam · 16/01/2023 21:30

She sounded like she was repeating something she poorly remembers that someone, very convincing, has told her. The bit in the middle when she's all um, er, ah, um then she remembers, 'hormones!'. Her tone changes, she sounds a little more confident and can actually get speaky words out. She still can't remember what she was told (but, by God, it was convincing). However, she's recalled a fragment and she clutches it, like a drowning woman person of indeterminate chromosomes.

I wonder who she's trying to channel?

That's the vibe I got.

In that case is she arguing for DSDs? Or gendered brain? Or gendered fat distribution a la Sam Smith?

Prof Robert Winston says our sex is in every cell of our body. Vaginas and penises are also a dead giveaway.

But yes, by her reckoning MC isn't sure of her own sex? What an interview.

Shelefttheweb · 17/01/2023 08:01

WarningToTheCurious · 16/01/2023 21:40

Someone has called her a loon and she’s taken that to heart.

You’re a wifie, Maggie, deal with it.

She’s a quine, definitely not a loon