Maggie Chapman doesn't know what sex she is

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But she isn't trans............

Please make this make sense.

Maggie hen, I think you are a loony, I think you have thrown women under the bus, but you are as much a woman as I am.

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I can't stand the woman - but I do think she is unwell.

I thought there was a TRA protest last night, deafening screeching from multiple bodies.

when I looked out at the green space opposite it was foxes shagging. They appeared to be able to work out which one was male & which female despite the female not wearing high heels & makeup,

The 'well I've never checked my chromosomes' bit is ridiculous, not only because you can have tests done fairly easily, but most of life revolves around assuming things are what they appear to be until shown to be obviously otherwise. I've never checked my DNA to make sure me and my family are actually human and not extremely oddly shaped dolphins with good language skills but it's very safe to assume I'm human because I appear to be and then test me if there's a problem. If I want to start living in the dolphin tank at the aquarium though I'm going to need more evidence than 'well I've never checked if I'm really human or dolphin'.

She was definitely a woman when I knew her as a student.

Does she have anyone around her who can sit her down and help her out I wonder?

I do feel that she and many others so closely bound up in this GRR mess are in so deep they are in psychological trouble. If you are in such a tight silo, the shock of realising just how off the wall you are viewed as must be massive (if and when that realisation comes). There are so many "hurt" and "gutted" tweets from people who claim to have grafted night and day on the bill, for years, and they sound genuine. But they must be helped to realise that at any point they could have looked up, and out, and talked to a range of people, and read forums like this and discussed and learned more about the issues. They must be so socially exclusive and just all winding each other up to the exclusion of all other views.

If I was her GP I would have serious concerns about her listening to yesterday's interview. She comes across as having almost delusional fixations (I am not a gp or doctor and have no real knowledge of mental health conditions, but she sounds unwell)

I'm wandering off topic here but at one point in my childhood I really wanted to be a dolphin. Later, in my teens, I wanted to be a marine biologist and study dolphins.

I didn't become either.

Never too late, though. I'll just be, to quote a PP, an extremely oddly shaped dolphin with good language skills, and swerve the DNA test.

It's not that far off topic to be fair, imagine if your parents had thought 'well she could just as easily be dolphin as human, we've never had conclusive tests done' and encouraged you to have huge lifestyle changes, medication and surgery to be more dolphin. I imagine that wouldn't have gone down well with social services, school etc, so I'm wondering why the trans equivalent is ok?

If I was her GP I would have serious concerns about her listening to yesterday's interview. She comes across as having almost delusional fixations (I am not a gp or doctor and have no real knowledge of mental health conditions, but she sounds unwell)

@MorvenOfMalvern this it's what i thought yesterday but left it at she seems unwell. As I wasnt sure if my own experience was clouding the issue. But she really did remind me of what I reckon I sounded like at the height of my mental health crisis. And I was very very unwell. I was absolutely fixated on issues, (that thankfully made sense, but that was just a fluke I think).

I look back on that time and wonder why no-one helped me when it must have been obvious to those around me that I was seriously unwell. I hope someone close to her is keeping an eye on her.

She's nae been a quine for quite some time. That's a wifie and nae doobt aboot it.

oops yes, but definitely not a loon.

I'm sorry you've had that experience. I am lucky enough not to have (although I do look back at how anxious and wired I was with my first baby, how much I cried and how little I slept and wonder wtf everyone around me was seeing ...) As I say I am uneducated re mental health diagnoses but she is clearly not in a good place.

Te stress and tension in her voice and the kind of darting away from thoughts as she realised she couldn't quite make it make sense to herself, and the fervour, and the clearly inappropriate and out of step statements that others who probably share them would be much more able to gloss or prettify to make more palatable (having some insight to what the bald truth may sound like etc) just alm makes her sound in need of someone who cares for her to move her away and look after her. Just some time not around people discussing and obsessing over this night and day is probably as important as anything.

Just some time not around people discussing and obsessing over this night and day is probably as important as anything.

@MorvenOfMalvern I think you're right. I imagine when she came at this at the start she's knew she was a woman, she knew kids weren't known for their well thought out decisions, she knew a lot of stuff that she is now denying wholesale. What that must do to your brain, it must be so discombulating. And when you consider she's been seemingly totally entrenched in this for a long time now. And now the Westminster boss have ruined their bill her thoughts and emotions will be all over the place. that was obvious inn that interview.

She really does need a couple of months of doing nothing but sitting on a beach somewhere reading a GCSE biology book!

I could not help but think that the local clown car is missing a passenger. Jesus, what an embarrassment of an interview.

Yes, and you'd imagine that as a Green she probably has interests in the climate, natural world, outside spaces, active travel and transport, alternative and renewable energies etc.

Wide ranging and diverse interests that involved getting out and about in the great outdoors, as opposed to this obsessional, echo chamber- dependent pressure cooker.

And hormones - in the environment and the harms they do, including by feminising male fish causing sterility (which is a bad thing, in case she was wondering)

(The mad fucking modified D'Hondt system means that although the SNP got 147,910 votes, or 40.9%, they didn't get a seat on the regional list in this area.)

They didn’t get any list seats because they had already won almost all the constituencies in the region. List seats are what makes the system proportional. If the SNP got list seats as well they would be over-represented.

The Scottish Greens are dangerous fucking lunatics but that’s not the fault of the electoral system.

She read biology at university, would you believe!

No I would not @ElegantlyTouched BLIMEY !

@ElegantlyTouched no Fucking way!! Oh that must makes it so so much worse. To have all that knowledge in your head screaming at you that what you are saying is bullcrap. She must be in hell in her head right now. That would explain why she is coming across as getting increasingly more unhinged. She's going to break soon. At least I hope she does. Because She needs to. She needs to get back to reality.

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She doesn't appear to have children. I wonder whether whether she has ever used contraceptives, and if so, why? If she has, didn't she think it would make sense to check her chromosomes first, in case she's male and doesn't need contraceptives?

I can't believe she read biology.

Because I do think that when people find out about DSDs, it can come as something of a surprise. I'm thinking of the specific condition where a person looks exactly like a regular female, but actually have a Y-chromosome? That sort of thing. It can turn perceptions upside down a little.

And of course, transactivists know this, which is why they are leveraging it.

And just like all the pieces of data, people have to encounter it, process it, and draw a conclusion.

The same way an awful lot of people don't seem to realise that sex offending is almost exclusively a male crime. Once you've taken that on board, and processed it, the implications slot into place. In the way they don't if you believe men and women are symmetrical in that way.

Likewise misogyny. It can account for so much once you see it, but you have to see it first.

So in terms of chromosomes not always being 100% straightforward, people seem to have grasped that idea and decided that the very concept can therefore call into question the 99% of cases where they are straightforward.

Maggie Chapman looked like she was spouting something that she genuinely believed, but couldn't quite remember the actual wording and if everyone else simply had the knowledge that had been imparted to her, we would all get it.

Of course, under questioning, the concepts that she had been told suddenly started to falter, because she was hearing them through less gullible ears.

If she truly believed that, (despite being unable to come up with a definition of trans), trans people have been trans since birth, she'd have no trouble saying that eight-year-olds should transition. She almost said it, but instead chose to say explore the possibility, because even to her, it started to sound unreasonable.

I have to say, the batshit all or nothing aspects of trans ideology, ie the ideological part, being given a public hearing is a sight to behold.

The Scottish Greens are dangerous fucking lunatics but that’s not the fault of the electoral system.

It is the fault of the electoral system. Without their list seats there would be no green MSPs and they wouldn’t be so dangerous. The list system also means if a party has a little support then there is no way to keep out whichever crackpot the party puts at the top of the list. And a lot of people give a vote to greens because of environmental stuff.

This is so accurate!