Gendered hair, the struggle is real

[KatMcBundleFace]

Do we think that Metro is secretly gender critical? They keep publishing absolutely whingefests that really do not show the TQ in a good light at all.

Now of cause everyone should be able to have the hair cut they want..... it is just gender stereotypes after all. But I can't help laughing at the delicate ones crashing into the real world 👇

metro.co.uk/2023/01/15/going-to-the-barbers-as-an-lgbtq-person-means-hiding-my-identity-18080558/

Favourite bits:

"For me, short hair was what I’d longed for, and was symbolic of me becoming a man,’ he says.
Trans people make a lot of changes – both big and small – to feel a sense of trans joy. Hair, after all, is one of the first things people see.
But his first haircut when he came out was not just about choosing scissors or clippers – it was about feeling inner peace."

"Harry now goes to a mixed-gender hairdresser who treats his hair ‘gently and allows me to talk about my life, gender and my partner’."

Talking about your gender eh? Makes a change from "where are you going on your holibobs luv?". Let's ALL talk about our gender next time we are in the hairdressers... it'll go down so well! We all have inner peace after a good hair cut though, so I hear them on that.

Then we get to Eden, who works,
SHOCKINGLY in the charity sector and has a lot of pronouns. Confusingly all mixed up in the article.
"Eden, 27, who is transfeminine and works in the charity sector, says xe can’t use any old barbers as she has to out herself as trans."

Next we find out about the 😱 horror of having to book a "gents" cut when you're non binary.

Finally we get to David, who's had to be vague about their partners pronouns.
Because some women were once a bit mean when he was listening in on their conversations at the hairdressers .
😱😱😱

I'm going to hold all these people in my prayers.

How do you "tilt towards the female"

👀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

How HOW did anyone ever listen to these people? HOW!!!

Lipstick on only one side?

I know lesbians who got annoyed at barbers refusing to cut their hair because they are female. If you have a short hair cut I see the attraction of the barber no appointment needed cheap hair cut system. Your sex shouldn't matter

I mean if you want to take the piss out of the trans agenda thats one thing but this thread is really shitting on the experiences and history of non gender normative women.

No it’s not, it’s seeing this for what it is: endless whining from the permanently aggrieved and offended.

Non gender normative women

That would be me. I dont need a special name or label, Im just a bog standard woman. I never played with 'girls toys', dont like pink, never been visibly feminine, had short hair for many years, now sport a rather fetching peri menopausal moustache and beard (not many trans women have these do they) nice swollen ankles and feet so no fancy pretty heels

The reality is there re millions of women like me, we slouch around in trousers (I didnt even like skirts as a child, no pictures of me wearing them)

Its an utter piss take for men to flounce around in pink and lippy declaring they are in girl mode and are trans feminine. Utter bullshit.

Seems like it would be a good money spinner this gendered hair malarkey. Pay extra to get your ego indulged .😂
Changes days from when me and ma pal were into The Smiths and Psychobilly and got No2's at the wee barbers as The Barras. No fuss whatsoever. We were and still are very much women.

@Thedaysthatremain
It's really not . Any hairdresser or barber will do a short hairdo on a female. Any. They would make a big fuss over your gender identity and treat you speshull, generally but they will cut your hair.

*won't

The only hope I have is it’s going to get more and more ridiculous. Frankly most people don’t care about whether you ‘feel’ male or female. Pushing it won’t make any difference and so much of this, to me, has very little to do with how people feel but others reactions to them. They aren’t ‘happy in their skin’ because they want constant validation from others.

Acceptance will only lead to further more ridiculous pronouns and sexualities etc. it’ll keep going until it self implodes.

@bellac11 absolutely this.👏

That is contrary to my experience. Many hairdressers and barbers have refused to cut my hair

I’ve never been to a hairdresser that didn’t cater to both men and women.

Never been in a hairdressers were all the staff were straight, either. Usually the majority are LGBQT+

How do I know this? Because they insist on telling me, in way too much detail, about their love lives. At the mo they seem mostly to be “pansexual” so I guess that’s what’s on trend 🥱

@Cheekymaw that's not my experience. Hairdressers aren't necessarily confident with clippers, or they have a go and make the back of my head look like I've been savaged by an angry squirrel, while barbers sometimes just say they don't do women. I could get shirty with them about discrimination law but in all honesty I don't want my hair cut by someone who doesn't want to do it.

It's not exactly my greatest mission in life to campaign about gender-related hairdressing problems, but having a little more difficulty getting the haircut you want because the way hair-cutting services are gendered isn't a good fit for the way you'd like your hair cut is a thing that actually exists. As is homophobia, which seems to be at the root of some of the problems some people in the original article were identifying.

I hate it when my hair causes me to literally become a man.

I know. I find myself skipping into the hairdressers in wafty skirts and a full face of foundation and when I leave Ive turned into Liam Gallagher.

I dont get it?

'I felt like I had to endure an experience I was uncomfortable with because “that’s what boys do”,’ he added.
Harry now goes to a mixed-gender hairdresser who treats his hair ‘gently and allows me to talk about my life, gender and my partner’.

For. Fuck. Sake.

Do you want to be a bloke or not?

@JarByTheDoor where on earth do you live? Also not saying homophobia at the hairdressers(sounds like a Morrissey song😂) isn't possible but the majority of male hairdressers/barbers I have had ma hair done at have been very openly gay! Never been a big deal!

Southeast England.

In the article, one interviewee described feeling uncomfortable because the stylist and client at the next chair were discussing the problems of dating bisexual men. Could be that there was nothing homophobic in the conversation, but I wasn't there to hear it and will give the benefit of the doubt that it made that person feel uncomfortable.

I think it's a bit of an outdated stereotype about gay hairdressers, isn't it? I've personally never had my hair cut by anyone I would say was sending strong "gay man" social signals (and I tend not to ask them about their sex lives so I have no idea). Maybe at classy ladies' salons?

I am shocked - shocked I tell you - that none of the people sharing their woes at immense length were black. Because I can imagine learning to navigate barber shop culture actually would be really really hard for TM; & that TW would struggle to find salons - which may influence long-term wig-wearing, but they need to purchase their wigs etc!

Do we learn about trying to navigate genuinely sex-segregated spaces & their associated cultures & traditions? No, of course not, some middle-class white people had a whinge about humans around them not reaching the exact fraction of a mm specified for the height of their jumps.

I walk into my local unisex hairdressers, request whatever clipper cut I want at the time and if they look doubtful & ask whether I'm sure, show them a pic of me last summer sporting a Grade 1. At which point they cut / shave my hair. So far nobody's been stupid enough to ask silly questions about pronouns, & I hope it stays that way.

“Trans joy” is such a funny phrase.

1988 I used to go to the barbers for a number one on the side and 2 on top - no one batted an eyelid or asked me to discuss my gender identity - I was a woman with short hair

This stuff hurts my bloody brain - honestly

It is…

I think in part it's an attempt at a parallel to "gay pride". To try and foreground a positive that's the direct opposite of a negative that's been assumed to be associated with the characteristic, that many people have been made to feel about themselves for having that characteristic.

We're not ashamed of being gay, we're proud. Being trans isn't miserable, it's joyful. That kind of vibe.

I don't think it works as well, though, and it feels smaller. Joy is only ever a momentary emotion, a response, whereas pride comes from within and can endure through all kinds of things.

Metro isn't gender critical unless their position has changed since they joined the pile on against trans widows last year

metro.co.uk/2021/07/31/im-a-real-trans-widow-saying-a-trans-partners-dead-is-disgusting-15008178/amp/