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First non-binary priest in C of E

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inkjet · 02/01/2023 20:27

uk.news.yahoo.com/church-england-first-non-binary-161400908.html

They describe themselves as non-binary and genderqueer but also say that the phrase “from maleness to femaleness” in Genesis provoked an epiphany.

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WerewolvesAtMidnight · 03/01/2023 13:22

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 13:20

MORE TEA VICAR?

I've just been on a thread, and had a decent time.

There are posters there, who disagree, who's views don't really chime.

But have stayed a while, and took a risk. It's been truly quite sublime.

Because, you'll never guess..they've been happy, to stay a while, and chat.

There's been none of the hissy fitting, and constant to and fro back chat.

No, it's been refreshing to just talk. To shoot the breeze. And that. Be.That.

The conversation has been interesting, on topic, and slightly off.

There's been lots of "I agree" and " yes, but, have you maybe thought of... "

But no one's, I think, been deleted, for slagging a poster off.

So, if this is 2023, then I say yes to bliss.

Sod bloody last year. Let's have some more of this.

To the poster who invoked this poem I give you a great big kiss.💋

Wow did you write that? Is that for me? It's brought tears to my eyes that has 🥹

Refreshmentsanyone · 03/01/2023 13:23

Brilliant, You’ll be holding all over now!

I can’t do striking out since the website changed. That’s a pain. Let me know if you crack that.

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 13:27

You put an asterisk before and at the end of the paragraph

Currently have my own Come to Jesus moment right there👆

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 13:35

There was this guy who lived in my street for a while and I didn't know what he did as a job, just saw him leave for work etc.

I bumped into him in town one lunchtime, as I walked past the the Cathedral, just a quick hi, bye type thing. He's was in full garb with the dog collar and everything coming out of a ⛪ so, as you would, I assumed he was a vicar (I say vicar I honestly don't know if that is right)

until I sat down to watch something on the tele one night a few months later and playing the role of the vicar in a cathedral was my neighbour.

Not a vicar then but a much more noble profession an actor!

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 13:38

ScrollingLeaves · 03/01/2023 10:56

He had no disapproval for even the 'outcasts' of his time (prostitutes and lepers?)!

He wouldn’t despise a prostitute but he didn’t think a prostitute should carry on being one after he had helped her. Jesus did not appear to think ‘sex work is work’.

Well this is quite a thread. I'm about to say something that has never come out of my mouth before

I AGREE WITH JESUS

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 13:38

Ooh god help me

WarningToTheCurious · 03/01/2023 13:38

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 13:27

You put an asterisk before and at the end of the paragraph

Currently have my own Come to Jesus moment right there👆

Ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full (as someone, forget who, once said).

Toomie · 03/01/2023 13:44

@WerewolvesAtMidnight
Many thanks for your thoughtful and engaged responses to the article. Definitely some things there for me to ponder too.
My son isn't back at school yet, so I have my hands a bit full today and no time to respond properly I'm afraid but will come back when I can. In the meantime, I'll keep following this fab discussion and i'm interested in thoughts, even when I don't respond very quickly

@Boiledbeetle
Not only handy with the bold function, but can do eloquent poetry too. I often lurk but don't post much as I don't have the time or energy to get involved in a lot of the discussions. This has been something truly different and it's great to have it acknowledged and expressed as you've done. I agree - "Let's have some more of this"!

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 13:46

WerewolvesAtMidnight · 03/01/2023 13:22

Wow did you write that? Is that for me? It's brought tears to my eyes that has 🥹

Yes, seriously this thread, please God, don't let me jinx it, has been a refreshing change.

Seriously.

And yes.

I bet you think this poem is about you?

You're right it is.

I have been filled with rage after seeing the most vile of opinions written by paedophile apologists the other night and this thread has done wonders to dissipate that anger.

Oh no is this the healing power of Jesus at work?

Hang on, just need to course direct..

Cunt

Cock

Arsewipe

Kisses

Boiled x

WerewolvesAtMidnight · 03/01/2023 14:30

Toomie · 03/01/2023 13:44

@WerewolvesAtMidnight
Many thanks for your thoughtful and engaged responses to the article. Definitely some things there for me to ponder too.
My son isn't back at school yet, so I have my hands a bit full today and no time to respond properly I'm afraid but will come back when I can. In the meantime, I'll keep following this fab discussion and i'm interested in thoughts, even when I don't respond very quickly

@Boiledbeetle
Not only handy with the bold function, but can do eloquent poetry too. I often lurk but don't post much as I don't have the time or energy to get involved in a lot of the discussions. This has been something truly different and it's great to have it acknowledged and expressed as you've done. I agree - "Let's have some more of this"!

Thanks Toomie I'll do some more later, it's a great article 😊

@Boiledbeetle thank you for my poem I it's literally the first one anyone has ever wrote for me 🥹 and the second 'prose' cock, cunt and kisses hehe you're amazing 🤩

ReunitedThorns · 03/01/2023 14:34

hotdiggetydog · 03/01/2023 10:36

Reported

And?

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 14:44

Justme56 · 03/01/2023 00:51

Was there not a Bingo in the Banana Splits. The drummer - a gorilla? Used to love the theme tune!

m.youtube.com/watch?v=XMl6HnhFFIA

I've never linked to you tube before so I'm not sure if this will work

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 03/01/2023 14:46

I find non binary females the most annoying it's like they are saying look at me I'm better than you, I'm not going to be a woman and all the shit that comes with it. They are cowards
Why? Why are they coward's? Seriously, how does how they identify have any bearing on me?!
It doesn't! It's literally nothing to do with me, let them have at it.
I know me.
If you think they're thinking they're better than you, (which they really probably don't give a shit about and if they do, so what ?!) If you feeling insecure or thinking that someone else thinks they're better than you, surely that's your issue to deal with, not theirs?!

IWannaBeInTheRoomWhereItHappens · 03/01/2023 14:53

This person is not the first non binary C of E priest. I know one, they just happen to not be attention seeking or talk about eyeshadow. The one I know is very down to earth (and FTNB)

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 14:54

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 03/01/2023 14:46

I find non binary females the most annoying it's like they are saying look at me I'm better than you, I'm not going to be a woman and all the shit that comes with it. They are cowards
Why? Why are they coward's? Seriously, how does how they identify have any bearing on me?!
It doesn't! It's literally nothing to do with me, let them have at it.
I know me.
If you think they're thinking they're better than you, (which they really probably don't give a shit about and if they do, so what ?!) If you feeling insecure or thinking that someone else thinks they're better than you, surely that's your issue to deal with, not theirs?!

Now I always feel for them, I imagine it's not the greatest of times in their heads for a lot of them, and if they are happier defining themselves as that then fine It's their life as long as their need to define themselves that way had no bearing or intrusion on my life then live and let live.

goldismything · 03/01/2023 15:23

I don't want to offend and would never say this to the persons face or indeed behind their back this is anonymous but my reaction to all this non binary/queer/gender fluid stuff is a faint sigh snd lovely dear now can we not talk about this as I am not interested. I love cocks myself, well one in particular, I also quite like makeup having my nails done having dh spank my bottom snd football but I guess you are not interested either.

So let's keep it all to ourselves shall we? Jolly good.

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 15:33

goldismything · 03/01/2023 15:23

I don't want to offend and would never say this to the persons face or indeed behind their back this is anonymous but my reaction to all this non binary/queer/gender fluid stuff is a faint sigh snd lovely dear now can we not talk about this as I am not interested. I love cocks myself, well one in particular, I also quite like makeup having my nails done having dh spank my bottom snd football but I guess you are not interested either.

So let's keep it all to ourselves shall we? Jolly good.

I know I honesty think God you'll look back at this in 30 years going on god I can't show my kids what an idiot I was. I get that some people out there are truly gong through an awful time. Existing in a body and mind that doesn't feel right must be excruciating at times and I hope that they mange to find as much peace and happiness as they can achieve but yeah okay that b I'm really not wanting tho know whilst I pack my shopping.

I remember my teenage and early twenties and thank God there is virtually no record of it to haunt me.

and you...kinky!

hotdiggetydog · 03/01/2023 15:42

ReunitedThorns · 03/01/2023 14:34

And?

And what?

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 15:48

hotdiggetydog · 03/01/2023 15:42

And what?

🙄😑

goldismything · 03/01/2023 15:50

Boiled.

You may be right but teenagers and young people always have angst. I think the number of people who really and truly feel they are in the wrong body into adult hood is actually tiny. It's really important I think to allow especially youngsters to explore and develop without taking every thing they say and feel as how they will feel aged 25! We don't do that in any other way apart from this.

But I respect your views. However If you think a bottom slap is kinky you havnt really lived.

goldismything · 03/01/2023 15:52

That was a joke by the way boiled I bet you have lived :)

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 16:00

@goldismything I think, and I don't know your age, but a lot of us here seem to be of an era where it was acceptable, True Romantics etc and Madonna! And perms!

But you could actually truly be you but in the body, the only body, you were ever going to have. And most people didn't have a problem. But our choices didn't impact on anyone's else's lives or their rights. And yes there are those that fell into the tiny amount of people that felt wrong. The same tiny amount that had existed in each generation. That truly had to change as much as they could in order to survive their life.

So why suddenly are we seeing this in numbers that statistically dont make sense.

Abhannmor · 03/01/2023 16:01

Well it's as kinky as you want it to be @goldismything !

And @Boiledbeetle is a worthy success to the Bard himself

Boiledbeetle · 03/01/2023 16:01

goldismything · 03/01/2023 15:52

That was a joke by the way boiled I bet you have lived :)

And then some

goldismything · 03/01/2023 16:17

Boiled

Yes I completely see your points. Very glad to have. Been a teen when I was to b honest. Shit I did have a perm! :)