How do you speak up without being called transphobic

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I just feel so lost... I don't know how to voice my opinion without accusations so I just take the easy option. Where does it end?

It's just shut up sit down and do what the nice man tells you. Just dressed up !! Differently. Different generation, different words, same shit and same effect though.

No kidding.

The bloke from Jane Eyre, dear Mr Brocklehurst, would slide into this attitude towards women without the faintest ripple. Soulmates in all directions.

I don't know how to voice my opinion without accusations
Simple: don't voice opinions. Just ask them questions. For best effect, use a concerned and caring head tilt.
See if you can get the other side to explain their opinion. They usually can't.

"You see? By thought, by word, by deed, you will be judged a sinner OP. No way to avoid it, so you might as well not bother worrying about it. Any more than anyone else telling you you're damned according to their religious faith."

Exactly. When everyone wakes up to this madness, the ones that spike out can hold their heads high. The ones that collaborated....can't.

Yes.

spike = spoke. Bloody phone.

Ha ha yes of course this can work really well. Make them fully explain their misogynistic position whilst you stare back intently with a look of complete incredulity.

You don't.

Transphobic has lost all meaning, and serves only as an attempt to smear.

EvilBee

I would respect you more if you didn't use "cisgender".
It implies that everyone believe in your ideology.
I respect trans women (and trans men) as trans people.
Until they mis gender me with the term "cis", using the terms of your ideology is literal violence.

I find the appalling Katie Dolatowski situation very useful in explaining why trans-identifying males must be kept out of female only spaces.

KD is a 6’5” male convicted sex offender who attacked 10yo and 12yo girls in the women’s toilets of a supermarket. KD hid his true identity and was placed in a Leeds Women’s refuge with women and children there. Upon discovery, KD was returned to Scotland and sent to prison. Having beaten up a fellow male prisoner, they are now in a women’s prison.

KD illustrates so many situations where males should be separated from women, and what happens when they aren’t. Any sane, reasonable can see how awful this is.

It’s absolutely disgusting that vulnerable women and children are at risk because of political or religious views that TWAW.

check the post under your original one for one reason.
As for its original meaning in science and in geography it means this side of.

In transgender terms (if you believe in the ideology) its means either 'not trans' which would make trans the starting point or that you identify with the gender that you were identified as at birth.
This again assumes that you agree with gender ideology and not sex as the major factor of your body.

Yes roaring!

If I see people using cis, I assume they are both credulous and misogynistic.

And the word transphobic has become so overused (and ludicrously used for things which are quite clearly not transphobic) that it's become just white noise.

So, eh. (shrug).

I really feel there's an opportunity for a joke here

What's the difference between a transphobe and a heretic?

Answers on a postcard

That dictionary definition nails it rather perfectly.

This simply isn't true - MN is one of the few places where women can discuss trans issues without automatically being labelled transphobic and "asked" to leave.

Along with the Times comments section, before you had to use your full name.

Everything is considered “transphobic” so I would probably laugh and lose respect for the person who equates curiosity or questioning or a well thought-out GC pov with “transphobia”.

Ah thank you. I actually read about this in the local newspapers but didn't consider this as a move back to sanity from the gender bs myself seeing that self ID came into force just last January. I also couldn't find anything showing that single sex protections are in place here in Switzerland so that women are not put at a disadvantage through self ID.

This is an example of the discussion in this regard (www.swissinfo.ch/ger/wirtschaft/sind-frauenbadis-in-einer-non-binaeren-gesellschaft-noch-zeitgemaess-/47789448). The text is in German.

Absolutely 👍

@Rheia1983 yeah I think I got a little too excited at this, naively thinking a law which respected sex would also protect it in other spaces, one way is not make self ID so easy and accessible (which I now know Switzerland has done). I don't know how the two can work together really.

As the Lion King meme says "everything the light touches is transphobia". I'm not afraid of trans people. I'm afraid that I can't tell the difference between a transsexual and a bloke pretending to be a woman to access women when they are vulnerable.

From a privacy or dignity perspective, I'm not sure it matters which? The point is that males should not be in women's single sex areas.

i've only got envelopes, if i seal one can it identify as a postcard?