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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police investigate 'flasher' gender recognition reform protester

647 replies

IwantToRetire · 26/12/2022 18:36

While critics shouted “shame on you” at the MSPs. One woman lifted their skirt and showed what initially appeared to be her genitals.

The woman shouted, “if you are not going to be decent, I am going to be indecent.”

However, it later transpired that she had been wearing some form of fake pubic wig.

According to the Scotsman, police did not arrest the individual immediately, however, the force has since received complaints and enquiries are ongoing.

uk.news.yahoo.com/police-investigate-flasher-gender-recognition-140324522.html

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SueVineer · 26/12/2022 20:46

VinoDino · 26/12/2022 20:42

Aah @SueVineer so we should be nice and ladylike?! Look where that has got us.

Elaine is a queen.

who said anything about ladylike? I do think it’s helpful if we act like sane adults though.

Where did screaming like a nutbag and flashing a fake Fanny like a childish idiot get us?

this is someone who is an attention seeker and clearly a bit of a narcissist. Behavior like that does not advance our cause.

OmiOmy · 26/12/2022 20:48

Screaming like a nutter and exposing a fake Fanny (as many have said) is obviously not helpful to anyones cause. Especially when we are campaigning for privacy and dignity for women. It’s childish and stupid and makes no intelligent point.

to be honest it goes without saying that such behavior is undesirable. No sane person needs a list or an explanation as to why that is not helpful for a cause.

its really important to me to stop so called gender self identification. We are already struggling and I don’t want our movement damaged by Narcissists desperate for attention.

Anyone who stands out from the crowd, takes action and is popular is a narcissist. KJK has been reviled by some, now Elaine. At this rate, JK Rowling will be next.

It's the same authoritarian attitude I see in TRAs.

You do do and leave others to what they want to do. Pluralism of ideas and all that.

SueVineer · 26/12/2022 20:50

This reply has been deleted

Removed by Mumsnet for not being in the spirit of the site

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/12/2022 20:51

They like exposing themselves

they do….but she wasn’t

FrancescaContini · 26/12/2022 20:51

Er no. I meant that your phrase “screaming like a nutter” is crass. I’m quoting you, hence the speech marks.

ApocalipstickNow · 26/12/2022 20:52

You realise a piece of fur sewn into a pair of tights makes it impossible to see genitalia?

ApocalipstickNow · 26/12/2022 20:54

And mental health slurs have no place on this thread. Or any.

OmiOmy · 26/12/2022 20:59

"Fancy coming over to mine for a duck and a pizza?"

Nah, your duck pic isn't anything much to look at.

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Onnabugeisha · 26/12/2022 21:02

ApocalipstickNow · 26/12/2022 19:59

Does anyone have the definition of flashing/indecent exposure to hand? I don’t want to look it up (sorry).

im pretty sure there has to be actual exposure or else wouldn’t anyone in swim wear be fucked?

Take up any objections to “flasher” and “flashing” with the OP and Yahoo News and other media channels. I didn’t choose to use those terms, only repeating the Yahoo News article the OP posted.

SueVineer · 26/12/2022 21:02

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/12/2022 20:51

They like exposing themselves

they do….but she wasn’t

She was pretending to expose herself. Screaming and shouting obscenities and pretending to expose yourself is what the tras like to do.

it’s creepy and aggressive and obviously attention seeking. It’s to the detriment of feminists.

Onnabugeisha · 26/12/2022 21:04

FOJN · 26/12/2022 20:08

In men, yes but female sex offenders have different patterns of offending and motivations. Although I'm happy to consider evidence which supports your assertion.

Likewise, I’m happy to consider any evidence you have indicating such an obsession with parading genitals or fake genitals around in public is not a risk factor for women sex offenders?

SueVineer · 26/12/2022 21:04

FrancescaContini · 26/12/2022 20:51

Er no. I meant that your phrase “screaming like a nutter” is crass. I’m quoting you, hence the speech marks.

gosh sorry to be crass. Would it be less crass if I shouted some obscenities and flashed a fake Fanny at you?

SueVineer · 26/12/2022 21:08

OmiOmy · 26/12/2022 20:48

Screaming like a nutter and exposing a fake Fanny (as many have said) is obviously not helpful to anyones cause. Especially when we are campaigning for privacy and dignity for women. It’s childish and stupid and makes no intelligent point.

to be honest it goes without saying that such behavior is undesirable. No sane person needs a list or an explanation as to why that is not helpful for a cause.

its really important to me to stop so called gender self identification. We are already struggling and I don’t want our movement damaged by Narcissists desperate for attention.

Anyone who stands out from the crowd, takes action and is popular is a narcissist. KJK has been reviled by some, now Elaine. At this rate, JK Rowling will be next.

It's the same authoritarian attitude I see in TRAs.

You do do and leave others to what they want to do. Pluralism of ideas and all that.

Lol at an objection to screaming obscenities and exposing yourself being a tra thing!!! Quite the opposite- they love that. Attention and exposure is everything to them.

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 21:10

Blocked?

Me?

Pah, Fucking hen.

You know who you are.

OK duck identity not working with the chicks. Goes off to think of next ruse.

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 21:12

Onnabugeisha · 26/12/2022 21:04

Likewise, I’m happy to consider any evidence you have indicating such an obsession with parading genitals or fake genitals around in public is not a risk factor for women sex offenders?

Still not looked for the penis monkey then? I mean i even posted a photo on the thread for you in case you've got parental controls installed.

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 21:14

The penis monkey reads books to kids in libraries. And that's fine under the letter umbrella and yet we are still arguing about Elaine and her merkin glued to leggings

SilverGlassHare · 26/12/2022 21:16

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 19:14

Yeah should have thought of that, way to kill a thread

OK who's been flashed with a real penis or been sent unsolicited duck pics

Three times. Once when I was six (in the garden with my mum and brother, we opened the back gate and a guy was masturbating in the alley), once when I was 13 (at school playing tennis with classmates, guy masturbating through the school fence), once when I was 19 or 20 (some guy whipped it out in front of me and a friend as we took a shortcut down a side street on a night out. We were drunk and started laughing, he legged it). No dick pics though - I met DH before those really took off.

Onnabugeisha · 26/12/2022 21:16

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 21:12

Still not looked for the penis monkey then? I mean i even posted a photo on the thread for you in case you've got parental controls installed.

No, been busy knitting. Not sure I want to after the photo you posted.

Shelefttheweb · 26/12/2022 21:18

SueVineer your criticism of her dressing up as a vagina for educational purpose, and wishing her to fade into obscurity shows a profound lack of appreciation of the role of pelvic floor physio. Half of women will have a pelvic organ prolapse. One in ten will need surgery to repair their pelvic floor, many more than once. Urinary incontinence is a significant issue in women that increases with age, with up to 75% of over 65 year old women having some leakage. All in all pelvic floor issues cause significant morbidity as well as financial impact on women and the nhs. Elaine is magnificent in her use of humour to tackle misunderstandings and teach women about their vulva, vagina and pelvic floor, help them self-treat through exercises, as well as knowing what their doctor can do to help so they don’t have to put up with pain and incontinence. She needs a bigger platform. Of course all this work is placed at risk by GRR - if ‘women’ no longer means women then suddenly statistics become meaningless. And we are constantly told talking about women’s physiology is not ‘inclusive’. Ironically, the response to her lifting her skirt has highlighted a huge lack of understanding of women’s anatomy.

But yeah, let’s get upset because she showed some fake fur after a vote that will give men the right to expose themselves in front of our daughters in communual changing rooms where they may be alone, or in prison showers where women can’t object.

OmiOmy · 26/12/2022 21:18

No, Sue. Trying to police what other people do and say is a TRA thing. Purity spirals and all that.

And, there was no exposure. But, you know that.

I don't think there is a homogeneous GC movement. Women, and men, are coming at it from different angles and trying to police people, especially women, for making a stand, is very off putting and controlling behaviour.

Shelefttheweb · 26/12/2022 21:19

And exposing a penis (an instrument of rape and representative of power) is in no way similar to exposing pubic hair.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/12/2022 21:22

pretending to expose yourself is what the tras like to do

don’t change the goalpost’s

you said originally that ‘insert slur here like to expose themselves’

not ‘like to pretend to….’ Thats very different

Onnabugeisha · 26/12/2022 21:23

Clymene · 26/12/2022 20:10

Do you know what a 'joke' is @DragonsCrisps?

Have you seen the photos and footage? Even if you were some way away, it's pretty clear it's not actually her vulva on display

The footage has fuzzed out the area….so evidently it’s not that obvious her merkin wasn’t a full natural bush.

Showing your bush counts as flashing btw, doesn’t have to be legs spread showing the vulva to count.

metro.co.uk/video/protestor-flashes-scottish-parliament-2842429/

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/12/2022 21:24

Showing your bush counts as flashing btw, doesn’t have to be legs spread showing the vulva to count

thats still not what she was doing….

MrsMorton · 26/12/2022 21:26

Boiledbeetle · 26/12/2022 21:14

The penis monkey reads books to kids in libraries. And that's fine under the letter umbrella and yet we are still arguing about Elaine and her merkin glued to leggings

I think their full name is "rainbow dildo butt monkey". Have some respect