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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Police investigate 'flasher' gender recognition reform protester

647 replies

IwantToRetire · 26/12/2022 18:36

While critics shouted “shame on you” at the MSPs. One woman lifted their skirt and showed what initially appeared to be her genitals.

The woman shouted, “if you are not going to be decent, I am going to be indecent.”

However, it later transpired that she had been wearing some form of fake pubic wig.

According to the Scotsman, police did not arrest the individual immediately, however, the force has since received complaints and enquiries are ongoing.

uk.news.yahoo.com/police-investigate-flasher-gender-recognition-140324522.html

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Boiledbeetle · 27/12/2022 15:19

So I got chatGPT to write me a poem. I asked it to do me one about a merkin first, but it refused! So I moved straight into wig which it happily produced.

Now obviously I've had to do some major editorial changes and rewrites but here's the Artificial Intelligence and mine's poem of merkins.

ELAINE AND HER MERKIN

A merkin

A coat of many hues
A symbol of change

A symbol of woman

A way to fight
A way to choose

A tool for self-expression

It highlights the plight
It focuses the woman

It tells a story

It sets the mood
It finds its place

In history

In art
In culture,

It can be long,
It can be short
It can be straight,
It can be curled
It can be wild,
It can be fun,

It can be Parliament

It changes with the seasons
With the trends

It follows the beat,
It leads the way

It speaks to the soul

It helps us find ourselves
Every single day

So here's to the merkin,
In all its glory, and hue

May it bring joy,
May it bring fun
May it be a source of inspiration,

And may it bring justice
For all who wear it.

Women Won’t Wheesht

BezMills · 27/12/2022 15:20

It is awesome when new terfy GCs appear and helpfully bump the thread repeatedly. Way to raise awareness Team Terf GC. Keep up the good work.

HootyMcboob76 · 27/12/2022 15:24

Did anyone arrest the TW who whipped out their ACTUAL MALE COCK on nationwide TV recently?
Did anyone arrest the TW who got out their MOOBS and fondled them at the NY Standing for Women demo?
Where was the outrage at the TW who got out THEIR ACTUAL MALE COCK in front of women and children at the Wi Spa?
What about all the online videos of TW flashing their ACTUAL MALE COCKS in women's toilets?

And a women wearing a pair of tights with some fake fuzzy wool stitched to the front is being investigated?

That figures.
The lunatics are in charge.

Genitals are ONLY okay (and perfectly legal) when they are ACTUAL MALE COCKS attached to men who think they are women.

They're not even okay on men who know they are men.

You've got to have the special glittery feeling in your head, and then the cock is 1. Legal 2. Acceptable 3. Stunning and Brave

OR

Have giant comedy sized fake breasts with erect nipples and proceed to teach your class of children while wearing them.
That's also okay.

OmiOmy · 27/12/2022 15:57

@HootyMcboob76 male bits are to be celebrated and/or show vulnerable they are and/or how they can woman better than actual woman.

Any symbol of woman, even a hint of it, even a fake version of female pubes is hate.

nilsmousehammer · 27/12/2022 16:01

I recommend the book 'why does he do that' by Lundy Bancroft: a specialist in the treatment of abusive men. Bancroft has a lot of very interesting observations as to the double standards he almost invariably observes in what a male abuser expects and feels entitled to and interprets for himself, and the generosity of interpretation, and the very much lesser crumbs that he feels are fit for others.

I find this a very interesting line of research in looking at the relationship between the TQ+ political lobby and female humans.

IwantToRetire · 27/12/2022 17:29

Well, when I started this thread I didn't really think this is the direction it would take.

Have only just caught up (phew) and just want to say everything in my OP is a quote from the newspaper article. Worth noting that they put flashing is quotes.

I though the discussion would be more about how probably only one TRA made a complaint and action is taken. Hundreds of women can make a complaint about being offended (or whatever was said) and nothing happens.

And am grateful for the clarification over merkin and jerkin.

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DragonsCrisps · 27/12/2022 17:37

IwantToRetire · 27/12/2022 17:29

Well, when I started this thread I didn't really think this is the direction it would take.

Have only just caught up (phew) and just want to say everything in my OP is a quote from the newspaper article. Worth noting that they put flashing is quotes.

I though the discussion would be more about how probably only one TRA made a complaint and action is taken. Hundreds of women can make a complaint about being offended (or whatever was said) and nothing happens.

And am grateful for the clarification over merkin and jerkin.

It took the police four days after self-declared indecency to investigate. twitter.com/conor_matchett/status/1606255206802460672

There are multiple people present, including survivors, who have spoken about the issue and complained. Any suggestion this is being dealt with quickly or without issue would eb wrong.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/12/2022 17:41

'Survivors'?Confused

Onnabugeisha · 27/12/2022 18:23

I though the discussion would be more about how probably only one TRA made a complaint and action is taken. Hundreds of women can make a complaint about being offended (or whatever was said) and nothing happens.

Why would we think it was only one complaint?
Several news articles said that there were multiple complaints:

The Sun & Scottish Sun
”She was then reported to police over the incident, as Police Scotland confirmed they are investigating the matter. A force spokesperson said: "We have received complaints and enquiries are ongoing."”

The Herald
“According to the Scotsman, police did not arrest the individual immediately, however, the force has since received complaints and enquiries are ongoing.”

Onnabugeisha · 27/12/2022 18:25

The Times
”Police Scotland said it had received multiple complaints about the incident, in which a protester in the public gallery lifted her skirt to show what appeared to be a pubic wig.”

IwantToRetire · 27/12/2022 18:27

Dear oh dear, why is everyone so tetchy.

I was making a general comment about how complaints against women are nearly always followed up even if only one complainant, but when a lot of women make a complaint against an institution or a man, more often nothing happens.

Maybe FWR needs to have thread called anyone up for a fight, come on this thread to do nothing but nit pick.

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Boiledbeetle · 27/12/2022 18:30

Well, when I started this thread I didn't really think this is the direction it would take.

@IwantToRetire

So @Onnabugeisha agreeing to crochet a vagina and making film recommendations (half way through Geisha, I used to work as a cook in a pub so it's like watching a documentary, although I never allowed the food to be adulterated,)

And rainbow dildo butt monkey's must have been a surprise

😁

Boiledbeetle · 27/12/2022 18:36

Also just realised this is the duck pic thread.

Sorry OP for posting photos of my naked duck on your thread

They were due though.

Boiledbeetle · 27/12/2022 18:37

Grrr cute

Onnabugeisha · 27/12/2022 18:43

Boiledbeetle · 27/12/2022 18:30

Well, when I started this thread I didn't really think this is the direction it would take.

@IwantToRetire

So @Onnabugeisha agreeing to crochet a vagina and making film recommendations (half way through Geisha, I used to work as a cook in a pub so it's like watching a documentary, although I never allowed the food to be adulterated,)

And rainbow dildo butt monkey's must have been a surprise

😁

Yes they do break every health and safety law, every food hygiene law and every sexual harassment law in the course of the film. It is like a documentary of late 1990s restaurant work…

I was a dishwasher, table busser, waitress, hostess and night manager during my Uni years…

Glad you are enjoying the film.

Onnabugeisha · 27/12/2022 18:45

@Boiledbeetle
Rainbow monkey is something I wish I could unsee. I was happy in my ignorance of its existence.

Boiledbeetle · 27/12/2022 18:57

Onnabugeisha · 27/12/2022 18:45

@Boiledbeetle
Rainbow monkey is something I wish I could unsee. I was happy in my ignorance of its existence.

And you ain't see nothing yet.

That is just the tiny tiny tip of the delights we keep banging on about, this one was allowed to read to our children, well not mine so don't have any.

This is why we are all so angry. It's not just be kind to the man who feels wrong. There is major revolting things going on under the radar yet still under the letter umbrella.

Some of these men are genuinely guys who feel with every part of their being that they are a woman, and I'm so sorry for them and want them to be able to do everything they can do find peace with that. But dildo monkey and the other wrong uns are creeping in through the back door.

And as we keep saying we can't tell the difference.

nilsmousehammer · 27/12/2022 19:07

Onnabugeisha · 27/12/2022 18:45

@Boiledbeetle
Rainbow monkey is something I wish I could unsee. I was happy in my ignorance of its existence.

I know exactly what you mean.

There are so many things connected with this political agenda that I wish I could unsee, unhear and remain in happy ignorance of.

ArabellaScott · 27/12/2022 19:15

You could be taking it easy on yourself
You should be merkin it easy on yourself,
'cause you and I know,

It's all over the front page, you give me road rage,
Racing through the best days,
It's up to you girl you're driving me crazy,

Thinking you may be losing your mind.

ArabellaScott · 27/12/2022 19:19

Another bride, another June
Another sunny honeymoon
Another season, another reason
For merkin whoopee

Boiledbeetle · 27/12/2022 19:22

You're on a roll Arabella.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/12/2022 19:33

But I know I've gotta give it a try
And I know the roads to riches
And I know the ways to fame
I know all the rules and then I know how to break 'em
And I always know the name of the game
But I don't know how to leave you
And I'll never let you fall
And I don't know how you do it
Merkin love out of nothing at all
Out of nothing at all, out of nothing at all
Out of nothing at all, out of nothing at all
Out of nothing at all
Merkin love out of nothing at all

Tanith · 27/12/2022 19:37

DragonsCrisps · 26/12/2022 20:05

Well, when you've said "I'm going to be indecent", "this isn't the last minge you'll see" and "get it right up you", you have very much set out that you want to be indecent, you are doing this to offend, and you are representing what you are flashing as genitalia.

If a man flashes but has a fake dick stuck to his pants, the intent to harm, express power and offend remains.

I don't think "if you look closely, what I flashed wasn't actually my genitals, but rather fake genitals I constructed, and was referring to as genitals" is a good defence against flashing, nor a good precedent to set.

It worked for the Grenfell Towers smoke-bombers, one of whom had his genitals wrapped in leather and flashing like a Christmas tree, iirc.

Boiledbeetle · 27/12/2022 19:38

@Onnabugeisha

I have just reached the bush reveal

"It's so angry! Oh!"
"Oh god. Does that thing have its shots? "

How have I never seen this film?

Waiting is a masterpiece.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 27/12/2022 19:56

According to eye-witnesses, it's minimising to say that trans activists set off smoke bombs near Grenfell Tower, because they set them off at the memorial itself, the Wall of Truth.
72 people died in that fire, and many more people were left homeless and bereaved.

Media coverage at the time