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First openly transgender woman set to be executed in the U.S. asks for mercy

101 replies

ZombieMumEB · 17/12/2022 12:22

"The first openly transgender woman set to be executed in the U.S. is asking Missouri’s governor for mercy, citing mental health issues.

Lawyers for Amber McLaughlin, now 49, on Monday asked Republican Gov. Mike Parson to spare her.

McLaughlin was convicted of killing 45-year-old Beverly Guenther on Nov. 20, 2003. Guenther was raped and stabbed to death in St. Louis County."

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/first-openly-transgender-woman-set-executed-us-asks-mercy-rcna61846

It is extremely unusual for a woman to commit a capital offense, such as a brutal murder, and even more unusual for a woman to, as was the case with McLaughlin, rape and murder a woman,” Pojmann said.

Could that be because they are male? 🤔They "transitioned" whilst on death row.

Perhaps being trans is the modern version of finding God, in the hope to be spared the death penalty?

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nauticant · 17/12/2022 12:26

An alternative report:

reduxx.info/inmate-on-death-row-now-identifying-as-a-woman-ahead-of-execution/

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 17/12/2022 12:33

“It is extremely unusual for a woman to commit a capital offense, such as a brutal murder, and even more unusual for a woman to, as was the case with McLaughlin, rape and murder a woman,” Pojmann said.

Corrections Department spokesperson... not his defence lawyer! WTF!?!?!

Abccde · 17/12/2022 13:31

“It is extremely unusual for a woman to commit a capital offense, such as a brutal murder, and even more unusual for a woman to, as was the case with McLaughlin, rape and murder a woman,” Pojmann said.

How can they even say that with a straight face?

Absolutely disgusting. People will attribute this crime to females. It's not. It's a male.

I don't think

Abccde · 17/12/2022 13:32

Posted too soon

I don't think the person should be executed, but that's because I don't believe in capital punishment.

I also think its inhumane to keep someone on Death row for so long.

Zodfa · 17/12/2022 13:40

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 17/12/2022 12:33

“It is extremely unusual for a woman to commit a capital offense, such as a brutal murder, and even more unusual for a woman to, as was the case with McLaughlin, rape and murder a woman,” Pojmann said.

Corrections Department spokesperson... not his defence lawyer! WTF!?!?!

I wonder if this is really a defence of the killer. Maybe it's just a subtle way of saying "real women don't actually do this sort of thing".

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 17/12/2022 13:52

Mmm! I suppose we'd need to read more she had said about him..

And then there's the "give him, sorry her, mercy because he, sorry she, is remorseful" malarkey. Given the details of his crime and the court case, I doubt that. He's just going for one of those clemency for an unusual case dispensations.

Rightsraptor · 17/12/2022 14:05

Do bear in mind that the legal definition of rape can vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. A penis is required to commit rape in the UK but may not be so where this loathsome creature committed his crimes.

FabYuleLous · 17/12/2022 14:09

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World’s smallest violin, and I’m playing it.

StopStartStop · 17/12/2022 14:12

“It is extremely unusual for a woman to commit a capital offense, such as a brutal murder, and even more unusual for a woman to, as was the case with McLaughlin, rape and murder a woman,” Pojmann said.

Surely 'Pojmann' was taking the piss?

ArabellaScott · 17/12/2022 15:23

Well, the death penalty is an abomination and shouldn't exist, of course.

RIP Beverly Guenther.

SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 17/12/2022 15:34

To be frank, at this moment I don't care. Commit a crime like rape and murder in a place that does carry capital punishment then tough.

Though I know that's a kneejerk reaction and not my considered belief on such things.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 17/12/2022 15:38

Zodfa · 17/12/2022 13:40

I wonder if this is really a defence of the killer. Maybe it's just a subtle way of saying "real women don't actually do this sort of thing".

I was kind of thinking the same thing

It is extremely unusual for a woman to murder another woman, even more so for them to rape and murder another woman might be exactly what I'd write if I had to for work.

SlagathaChristie · 17/12/2022 15:38

I'm glad he has the death penalty. He will never be safe to release, and I think it's worse all round to keep someone locked up forever.

Gymrabbit · 17/12/2022 16:47

Good- execute the piece of shit.
I can only assume it transitioned to try to provoke sympathy.
let’s face it raping people hardly shouts dysphoria.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/12/2022 18:44

I don't agree with the death penalty but I don't think this extremely violent murderer should get any kind of preferential treatment to any other man on death row.

Cheekymaw · 17/12/2022 18:51

Don't believe in the death penalty, but after reading all week about so many pieces of shite brutally murdering women, I am all out of sympathy. Boo fucking hoo
RIP Beverly Guenther

RubyTrees · 17/12/2022 21:51

Rightsraptor · 17/12/2022 14:05

Do bear in mind that the legal definition of rape can vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. A penis is required to commit rape in the UK but may not be so where this loathsome creature committed his crimes.

You're correct.

Here's the US definition:
www.justice.gov/archives/opa/blog/updated-definition-rape

TheBiologyStupid · 17/12/2022 22:17

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 17/12/2022 12:33

“It is extremely unusual for a woman to commit a capital offense, such as a brutal murder, and even more unusual for a woman to, as was the case with McLaughlin, rape and murder a woman,” Pojmann said.

Corrections Department spokesperson... not his defence lawyer! WTF!?!?!

Unbelievable - FFS!

HootOwlStrikesAgain · 17/12/2022 22:19

Yeah. It's "unusual" for a woman to rape someone. What a genius! When that's literally impossible, because rape requires a penis. I don't understand!

RubyTrees · 17/12/2022 22:34

RubyTrees · 17/12/2022 21:51

You're correct.

Here's the US definition:
www.justice.gov/archives/opa/blog/updated-definition-rape

I meant to add that if a woman can commit rape in the US, McLaughlin's sex isn't relevant and a ponytail, make up and nail polish really aren't enough to get McLaughlin off death row.

ScrollingLeaves · 17/12/2022 22:52

“It is extremely unusual for a woman to commit a capital offense, such as a brutal murder, and even more unusual for a woman to, as was the case with McLaughlin, rape and murder a woman,” Pojmann said

Saying this is meaningless seeing as a woman did not commit these crimes. How can they carry on with this nonsense? Transwomen are simply a subset of men.

HootOwlStrikesAgain · 17/12/2022 22:57

I meant to add that if a woman can commit rape in the US, McLaughlin's sex isn't relevant and a ponytail, make up and nail polish really aren't enough to get McLaughlin off death row.

Well, quite. Even if they've redefined rape - which in itself is shocking, how much does the US want to attack women?! - he's still a rapist and murderer and should be cut no slack. What on Earth are they thinking?

MingeofDeath · 18/12/2022 04:52

Meh, fuck him.

Boiledbeetle · 18/12/2022 18:15

It seems he's only recently found Jesus. I mean womanhood. Left 2017 right 2021. Presumably as his other routes to getting out of the death penalty run out, this is yet another attempt to manipulate the system.

First openly transgender woman set to be executed in the U.S. asks for mercy
TheBiologyStupid · 18/12/2022 21:20

It seems he only discovered the concept of mercy after being sentenced for his horrific crime, too.