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So that's why Susie Green left

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DistantVworp · 02/12/2022 13:27

Charity commission launches formal inquiry into Mermaids:
twitter.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1598666394610147329?s=20&t=x_Supvwk6lHkKBR7a-ESSw

About bloody time!

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bellinisurge · 02/12/2022 19:34

Popcorn for the corporate and celebrity squirming . Head in hands for the number of kids and their families messed up by the dreadful lack of proper kindness

bellinisurge · 02/12/2022 19:38

By proper kindness, I mean the truth about changing sex

Boiledbeetle · 02/12/2022 19:41

Ah bless mermaids are finally getting some support

So that's why Susie Green left
ReneBumsWombats · 02/12/2022 19:44

Boiledbeetle · 02/12/2022 19:41

Ah bless mermaids are finally getting some support

What does he find incomprehensible about it?

nilsmousehammer · 02/12/2022 19:45

Here we go.

It's incomprehensible that anyone could be so mean as to hold a group accountable for multiple safeguarding disasters and whatever evidence the CC found!

We seriously are going to see the jumped shark of 'above the law'. Which has been subtext for bloody years, but yes, absolutely, let's get this right out and examine it in detail.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/12/2022 19:49

I notr that the Guardian can't face using the accurate word paedophile, instead using the word salad:
"an organisation that aims to promote a science-informed understanding about people … with an attraction to children”

Presumably in the hope that their readers won't spot the elephant in the article.

SelfPortraitWithHagstone · 02/12/2022 20:01

"Belinda Bell's Bundle" does have a rather lovely ring to it.

Just thinking aloud. 😁

babyjellyfish · 02/12/2022 20:01

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/12/2022 19:49

I notr that the Guardian can't face using the accurate word paedophile, instead using the word salad:
"an organisation that aims to promote a science-informed understanding about people … with an attraction to children”

Presumably in the hope that their readers won't spot the elephant in the article.

Aren't they quoting the Times there?

ResisterRex · 02/12/2022 20:03

"an organisation that aims to promote a science-informed understanding about people … with an attraction to children”

That's worse than "MAPs". It sounds legit and inquiring.

FusilliFettler · 02/12/2022 20:03

Breaking news BoiledBeetle
Someone has leapt to the defence of Mermaids, none other than Cycling Mum!
Apparently Mermaids was brilliant!
Well that explains how her child hit the cross sex hormones so fast. No doubt they were signposted to Gender GP.

So that's why Susie Green left
IcakethereforeIam · 02/12/2022 20:09

Huh, I was wondering earlier if Mermaids needed a SG mk.II.

mb2512cat · 02/12/2022 20:11

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MrsJamin · 02/12/2022 20:14

I'm not celebrating. We've been worried on MN FWR for literally years about the influence of Mermaids on vulnerable young people, and people didn't listen and complained we were bigots. How many young people in that time took life-damaging irreversible health decisions? I am not sure that lessons are learned just yet and there are plenty of charities and organisations ready to take Mermaids' place. This might be a battle that's won, but the war is not over, not by a long shot.

Usethesausageasabreakwater · 02/12/2022 20:22

Fucking finally.

napody · 02/12/2022 20:36

BatCheeseIsFine · 02/12/2022 19:19

The bbc report also interestingly described Mermaids a s a charity that “aims to help transgender children”< not that does.

Yeah and there are two ways to read that phrase, aren't there?
Does it aim to help children who are trans
Or help trans (verb) children?

napody · 02/12/2022 20:38

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/12/2022 19:49

I notr that the Guardian can't face using the accurate word paedophile, instead using the word salad:
"an organisation that aims to promote a science-informed understanding about people … with an attraction to children”

Presumably in the hope that their readers won't spot the elephant in the article.

Jesus, that's practically MAPs?!
Very very irresponsible phrasing.

napody · 02/12/2022 20:40

ResisterRex · 02/12/2022 20:03

"an organisation that aims to promote a science-informed understanding about people … with an attraction to children”

That's worse than "MAPs". It sounds legit and inquiring.

Ah missed your post. Yup, they need to sort that immediately.

Babasghost · 02/12/2022 20:47

Ladies, this is really big.
It's important to celebrate this moment.
So many of us have lost jobs, freinds, money.. have been excluded from so many female spaces and the public squares of Twitter fb and Insta.

Our collective effort despite the rape and death threats raising our voices did lead here.
For the tide to begin to turn it has taken a good 5 years of real pain and hardship.many hundreds of women have been speaking up in the cold and dark and now the lights are coming on.

I raise a glass to my sister's tonight.
Fucking well done.

TheBiologyStupid · 02/12/2022 20:51

BreadInCaptivity · 02/12/2022 18:36

Retweeted without comment to a tweet you can't comment on.

Cowardly little shit....

A pp predicted exactly this on one of the threads discussing this - perhaps Boiledbeetle IIRC?

TheYummyPatler · 02/12/2022 20:53

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/12/2022 19:49

I notr that the Guardian can't face using the accurate word paedophile, instead using the word salad:
"an organisation that aims to promote a science-informed understanding about people … with an attraction to children”

Presumably in the hope that their readers won't spot the elephant in the article.

It’s almost worth writing a strongly worded letter to the guardian about using euphemism to distract from the actual issue.

nilsmousehammer · 02/12/2022 20:57

With the euphemism being enablement.

Dear readers, do not look below the fig leaf we're holding over the facts here while spinning them carefully away to protect adults' interests over children's.

nilsmousehammer · 02/12/2022 20:57

The biggest safeguarding inquiry in history is coming down the tracks. It might take a decade to get there, but the mess is going to be unholy and a lot of places terribly proud of their credentials are going to be culpable.

RoyalCorgi · 02/12/2022 20:59

babyjellyfish · 02/12/2022 20:01

Aren't they quoting the Times there?

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It looks to me as if they're quoting from the organisation's own materials. Very unfair to blame the Guardian for the wording. (And I'm no fan of the Guardian's handling of this issue.)

ResisterRex · 02/12/2022 21:03

If it's from there...why would you quote uncritically from an organisation with aims like that one has? It's the job of the fourth estate to test and investigate.

TheBiologyStupid · 02/12/2022 21:05

RedToothBrush · 02/12/2022 19:30

In fairness to the bbc they weren't responsible for Butterflies...

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No, but BBC Radio 4 did do the rather similar Just a Girl: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b095tvpy

I have a nasty feeling that Susie Green might have had some involvement with that, too, but I could be wrong.