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An excellent piece from Glinner

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Tricyrtis2022 · 02/12/2022 10:47

I was invited to deliver a few words at the Battle of Ideas party being held tonight. here is the full text of what I hope is a short speech.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/my-speech-at-the-battle-of-ideas

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IwantToRetire · 02/12/2022 17:23

@doublejourney Have just googled Battle of Ideas and "is a project of the Institute of Ideas, which is associated with the libertarian, anti-environmental LM network." ie Clare Fox etc..

If you go to the page where I got the info it has a long list of funders dating back years and cant see anything about ADF.

powerbase.info/index.php/Battle_of_Ideas

This linking to ADF sounds like somethint that silly group AGCL says, as they are always claiming everyone but themselves are funded by right wing christian fundamentalists.

Tricyrtis2022 · 02/12/2022 17:24

We don't know if he supports them or not, all we know is that they gave him a platform and he accepted it. There are very few places where he could say what he did out loud, so compromises must sometimes be made

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IwantToRetire · 02/12/2022 17:28

As I just posted, the accusation doesn't even seem to be true.

I accept that Clare Fox is a bit of a political maverick, but its like accusing Julie Bindel and others of taking on the politics of the DM - rather than questiong why other so called left liberal papers wont giving any space to gender critical writiers.

doublejourney · 02/12/2022 17:29

IwantToRetire · 02/12/2022 17:23

@doublejourney Have just googled Battle of Ideas and "is a project of the Institute of Ideas, which is associated with the libertarian, anti-environmental LM network." ie Clare Fox etc..

If you go to the page where I got the info it has a long list of funders dating back years and cant see anything about ADF.

powerbase.info/index.php/Battle_of_Ideas

This linking to ADF sounds like somethint that silly group AGCL says, as they are always claiming everyone but themselves are funded by right wing christian fundamentalists.

Maybe they've removed it (for good reason), there was definately a mention of it when the original festival was taking place and as you can see in the image ADF are heavily involved.

An excellent piece from Glinner
Tricyrtis2022 · 02/12/2022 17:30

the accusation doesn't even seem to be true

There's a lot of that about.

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IwantToRetire · 02/12/2022 17:34

doublejourney

The screen grab is without context. Maybe they were speakers at one of the festivals.

The link I posted is from the organisation, it is independent research into organisations, and they would have no interest in censoring information as it would invalidate they service they say they provide.

Can you give the link to where you took the screen grab?

Thanks

IwantToRetire · 02/12/2022 17:37

oops ... isn't from the organisation but independent research

FI0N · 02/12/2022 17:45

Glinner is familiar with the “ shoot the messenger “ approach. I’m sure he will survive “ shoot the messenger because he once stood on a platform beside someone I don’t like “ .

Cheekymaw · 02/12/2022 17:45

Hey Glinner ! Much love to you pal. Loved the speech and thought of you today and alot of us women. You are owed a big apology by alot of people Glinner .Those fuckers stood back when those were being harmed and you and us tried to warn them. I hope you are okay , pal.

Pickawindow · 02/12/2022 17:50

There is this constant criticism of how those speaking out aren’t “suitable” or are guilty by association ever since I first started finding out about this insane ideology back in 2015.

The onus should always be on WHY are rational, critical voices being ignored and silenced by virtually every mainstream media & social media outlet, especially those on the left? The safety of women and children retaining our boundaries is at a level where the house is on fire; arguing about who is righteous enough to pour waters on the flames is just ignorant. It’s these leftist purity spirals that have meant the right have been handed an open goal on this issue.

Kinetic4 · 02/12/2022 18:05

ADF were official partners of the BOI in October.

An excellent piece from Glinner
BoreOfWhabylon · 02/12/2022 18:11

Well done @Glinner
Was the speech recorded? I'd love to hear you delivering it

TheKeatingFive · 02/12/2022 18:17

Fuck right off with the guilt by association purity bollocks. Start asking why left wing platforms aren't covering this instead.

Wellies54 · 02/12/2022 18:37

TheKeatingFive · 02/12/2022 18:17

Fuck right off with the guilt by association purity bollocks. Start asking why left wing platforms aren't covering this instead.

Couldn't agree more!

nilsmousehammer · 02/12/2022 18:42

TheKeatingFive · 02/12/2022 18:17

Fuck right off with the guilt by association purity bollocks. Start asking why left wing platforms aren't covering this instead.

Well said.

Pickawindow · 02/12/2022 18:53

“When a maniac is at the door, feuding brothers (and sisters) reconcile”

IwantToRetire · 02/12/2022 19:15

ADF were official partners of the BOI in October.

Another non contextual screen grab with no evidence to the claim made.

One of the issues discussed at the October BOI was about women's rights to abortion falling the overturning of Roe vs. Wade

And even if they were (no evidence produced) BPAS has been an onging funder.

I know its bad to allow threads to be derailed, but so many attempts are made on FWR (and elsewhere) have these vague accusations. I know many of here just shrug them off as being smear tactics, but too often these half baked online allegations just get passed on and then become "fact".

This is just what the facebook group Actual Gender Critical Left keeps on doing to KJK / SfW.

Sorry Glinner.

Great speech.

Thelnebriati · 02/12/2022 19:27

I also think of all the wonderful comedy the world has lost because of Glinner being blacklisted.

Yes this; also if one of the finest comedy writers of our time can be blacklisted, anyone can.

NecessaryScene · 02/12/2022 19:28

Another non contextual screen grab with no evidence to the claim made.

And it is always screen grabs, you should note, much like the people sharing screen grabs of Mumsnet on Twitter. Really, really cropped ones.

Never actual links or archives that would provide context.

Which reveals a fundamental dishonesty, or at least insecurity - surely if you were confident about your position, you would be meticulous about making sure things are properly and fully archived, as most people around here do (either things from their opponents, or important things of their own).

JustSpeculation · 02/12/2022 19:34

@Glinner ,

Yes, an excellent speech. Pithy. To the point.

And while there's a thread I know you are reading, thank you for Father Ted and the IT Crowd. Best comedy of the last half century. I just have to think of it to start smiling.

TheKeatingFive · 02/12/2022 19:43

Exciting to see actual Glinner. You are owed the biggest apology from so many people. You called it right from the start. And great piece .

Kinetic4 · 02/12/2022 19:43

Another non contextual screen grab with no evidence to the claim made.

Sorry here is the link to the tweet.

twitter.com/acadofideas/status/1572915402539429889?t=EmsOgEj6M4GHWLo45jEjeg&s=19

Many lesbians and feminists have issues with ADF as Linehan is well aware, they're not an unknown group.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/12/2022 20:01

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Boiledbeetle · 02/12/2022 20:02

FFS. Glinner doesn't exactly have an awful lot of options as to where he gets to speak these days.

So for once could the but but but brigade just give it a fucking rest and appreciate the words he said instead of pontificating over the fucking location at which he said them.

Boiledbeetle · 02/12/2022 20:10

@MrsOvertonsWindow obviously that was not directed at you.

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