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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Marion Millar in police fraud probe as Dundee firm claims it lost £50k

76 replies

Robertsweb · 16/11/2022 20:20

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/politics/scottish-politics/3892582/marion-millar-fraud-probe/?utm_source=twitter

I can't quite work out what is going on here, is it saying she's taken £50k of crowdfunder money or she stole it from the accounting firm she worked for?

OP posts:
Mochudubh · 18/11/2022 18:26

@Tallisker

Sorry, quoted by accident.

Theunamedcat · 18/11/2022 18:26

AreWeTheBaddies · 17/11/2022 13:30

So you are accusing the police of being corrupt?

Are you new to this planet?

Rockersversuswalter · 18/11/2022 18:39

Real newspapers don't write: “This, unfortunately, didn’t just effect me,"

Theunamedcat · 19/11/2022 08:38

Rockersversuswalter · 18/11/2022 18:39

Real newspapers don't write: “This, unfortunately, didn’t just effect me,"

True it reads very strangely

MargaritaPie · 21/11/2022 20:14

Are you suggesting a conspiracy and the police have "set up" Marion Millar?

Any evidence?

Moonatics · 21/11/2022 20:19

AreWeTheBaddies · 17/11/2022 13:30

So you are accusing the police of being corrupt?

Absolutely gasping for breath now. What an inane thing to write, and to then go on and give away a different username.
Wd baddies/puffin

Moonatics · 21/11/2022 20:21

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RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/11/2022 20:22

MargaritaPie · 21/11/2022 20:14

Are you suggesting a conspiracy and the police have "set up" Marion Millar?

Any evidence?

Who are you speaking to?

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 21/11/2022 20:34

I have seen TRAs talk about donating money to crowdfunders specifically to have the leverage to subsequently claim they were defrauded.

I suppose it's the next logical step from all the stupid posts here where some TRA idiot sporting a fake moustache claims they donated money and they now feel like they were ripped off. Actually donate with your fake moustache on and then claim you were ripped off.

The illiterate quote sounds like it might result from an ever so cunning fake-moustache TRA. I doubt anyone donated 50K under false pretences though so that must be something different.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 21/11/2022 20:48

I just read a previous thread about Marion Millar, and it brings home forcibly that there are some extraordinarily nasty and disturbed individuals with a vendetta against her. One of them has posted on this thread, but he isn't the worst of them by a long shot. It's honestly frightening. The charges against her before were massively trumped up - they arrested her for complaining on social media about the officer who showed up to intimidate her!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4349234-Marion-Millar

After reading this I'm about 90% sure whatever is happening here is a result of more activity from these very disturbed and dangerous men, some of whom seem to be well-connected.

Farmageddon · 21/11/2022 21:00

BedTaker
Tbh, I just don't really care......like even if MM was found guilty of fraud of thousands of pounds, I still wouldn't think that men can become women, that any man who wants to use female provision should be allowed to do so, or that kids should be pumped with powerful hormone altering drugs?

Exactly. It's funny how this stuff is used as some sort of 'gotcha' against the GC side. It changes nothing about biological sex and material reality.

MargaritaPie · 21/11/2022 21:44

"they arrested her for complaining on social media about the officer who showed up to intimidate her"

MM is alleged to have named the officer (who wasn't meant to be named), posted false information about her and used a homophobic slur against her (the officer is a lesbian).

MargaritaPie · 21/11/2022 21:46

Anyway the OP article doesn't give many details about the latest investigation, but it sounds like it's unrelated to the crowdfunds and something to do with workplace fraud?

NotBadConsidering · 21/11/2022 21:47

If you say Marion Miller’s name 5 times in front of a mirror on a thread MargaritaPie appears.

Datun · 21/11/2022 22:37

BedTaker · 17/11/2022 18:29

Paisley, Comerford and Co have been going on about Marion Millar for ages now. Paisley is particularly stinging from the fact the case against her was dropped and has been gagging to bring her down ever since. Interesting he is back on Twitter (again), just as this comes up, prepare for a barrage of Marion Millar tweets!

Tbh, I just don't really care......like even if MM was found guilty of fraud of thousands of pounds, I still wouldn't think that men can become women, that any man who wants to use female provision should be allowed to do so, or that kids should be pumped with powerful hormone altering drugs?

Just for the record, if Marion needs
more cash to fight this latest onslaught, I'll happily donate. And no, I don't care if she subsequently pisses that up the wall because they drop the case.

MargaritaPie · 22/11/2022 01:41

She's already received £100k(?) in donations?

Some people have been wondering what happened to this money since the trial didn't go ahead.

She used to post all day every day on Twitter but when the case was dropped she disappeared from the face of the internet. With the money.

FannyCann · 22/11/2022 06:57

She's already received £100k(?) in donations?

The reason for the question marks is because you don't know @MargaritaPie

I certainly can't remember everything that went on but I do recall at least one crowdfunding was pulled and then someone set up a fake one in her name and I think it ended up that people had to donate direct to a PayPal account or similar. Meaning no one can know how much was donated.

And no, I don't care if she subsequently pisses that up the wall because they drop the case.

And most donors recognise that they are giving to these funding appeals without the recipient having any obligation to account for the sums received and how they are spent. Given the cost of legal assistance I doubt there is much left over and if someone who has been put under great stress, whose livelihood has been threatened, who necessarily had many other extraneous expenses associated with the action such as childcare whilst attending police stations etc if excess funds are used elsewhere or on a celebratory trip to the Maldives at the end of it all they are welcome as far as I am concerned. I believe most genuine donors feel the same.

FannyCann · 22/11/2022 06:57

Also she left Twitter due to being basically hounded off iirc.

Soontobe60 · 22/11/2022 07:09

MargaritaPie · 22/11/2022 01:41

She's already received £100k(?) in donations?

Some people have been wondering what happened to this money since the trial didn't go ahead.

She used to post all day every day on Twitter but when the case was dropped she disappeared from the face of the internet. With the money.

Maybe use your brain and think about what could have happened to that money eh? I’m sure you have a vague grasp of how our legal system works. Someone faces charges so employs a legal team. They get billed by that legal team for every minute the team spend working on the case. Solicitors can charge £££s per hour / phone call / letter sent. So a 1 hour meeting with a couple of follow-up letters might cost £300+. Spend half a day with your legal team and you’ve soon racked up over £1000 in fees. The fact that the case was thrown out doesn’t mean Marion had no legal fees to pay.
As others have said, I also donated to her crowdfunded, and I’d be absolutely happy if she had spend a chunk of that money taking her children to Disneyland in order to deal with the horrific trauma she was made to suffer all because some jumped up twattish male decided he was offended.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 22/11/2022 07:52

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Moonatics · 22/11/2022 09:09

MargaritaPie · 21/11/2022 21:44

"they arrested her for complaining on social media about the officer who showed up to intimidate her"

MM is alleged to have named the officer (who wasn't meant to be named), posted false information about her and used a homophobic slur against her (the officer is a lesbian).

Last time I looked we live in a (alleged) democracy. We can name police officers. Theres no law against naming a public official. If you never want to be named, you dont work for a public employer.

As for the slur, you got proof?

Datun · 22/11/2022 09:52

And another thing. Say she was guilty of fraud unconnected to the crowdfunder. I would still support her if she was being targeted by TRAs.

It's their behaviour I'm trying to halt, not hers.

One of their favourite tactics is to discredit people who oppose them. To turn the spotlight on the person challenging them.

Nah.

LaughingPriest · 22/11/2022 09:52

She used to post all day every day on Twitter but when the case was dropped she disappeared from the face of the internet. With the money.

You mean: someone has stopped typing things on a public forum?

Do you think this literally means she has travelled somewhere? Grin You don't half come out with the oddest things, Marg!

Helleofabore · 22/11/2022 10:02

MargaritaPie · 21/11/2022 21:44

"they arrested her for complaining on social media about the officer who showed up to intimidate her"

MM is alleged to have named the officer (who wasn't meant to be named), posted false information about her and used a homophobic slur against her (the officer is a lesbian).

Start to link up that evidence pie. You should have it if it is true, because you have posted this repeatedly on threads about Marion Millar.

You just repeating it doesn't make it true.

Datun · 22/11/2022 10:07

LaughingPriest · 22/11/2022 09:52

She used to post all day every day on Twitter but when the case was dropped she disappeared from the face of the internet. With the money.

You mean: someone has stopped typing things on a public forum?

Do you think this literally means she has travelled somewhere? Grin You don't half come out with the oddest things, Marg!

What Marge means is she's disappeared from Marge's screen.

Marge can't see her. Only her entire social network, friends and family can.