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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Guardian: Ask Phillipa Husband wants to be a woman.

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WarriorN · 06/11/2022 07:46

She's on the fence but tactfully says run for the hills?

I wonder whether she had to shove the first para in.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/nov/06/ask-philippa-perry-my-husband-wants-to-be-a-woman-but-will-he-be-happier?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

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ReunitedThorns · 06/11/2022 13:41

KatMcBundleFace · 06/11/2022 10:20

Greyson Perry did a documentary on Channel 4 in the 2000s where he discussed being a transvestite and how humans can't change sex, no matter how much they want too. He even gets a transwoman to admit this.......

The programme is now "forbidden " you can only view it in Europe.

Bonkers eh?

Greyson admits the fetishism aspect for him. These men exist and as long as they don't trample on women's rights and spaces, then live and let live. That's what I think anyway.....*ducks to avoid incoming anger

I like him. I like Phillipa and her advice is spot on.

When Greyson Perry is serious he makes a lot of good points.

I watched that series and he saw a man who was buying the hormones off the internet, and basically told him how wanting to change his body was a very masculine mechanical thing to do!

He makes very good points about "Default Man", which are the types of men (in my mind the predominant), who do everything in their power not to stand out, yet somehow maintain control of everything.

As far as his crossdressing is concerned, we wouldn't know his name if he didn't do it.

howdoesatoastermaketoast · 06/11/2022 13:56

@AutumnCrow nope it doesn't mention agp or transwidows but it contains some pretty welcome insights from the guardian

tldr:
your wants & needs are as important as your husbands

you should expect and want a future relationship that contains sex fun and companionship - don't settle for a marriage where you are increasingly lonely and unvalued

you are not obliged to only think about his feelings when he clearly isn't thinking about yours.

Whether he is making a good decision the correct decision for him is beside the point, you need to make the right decisions for yourself.

TheBiologyStupid · 06/11/2022 14:49

Lottapianos · 06/11/2022 08:43

Surprised by what a good answer it was. She was quite right to encourage this poor woman to focus on herself and what she actually wants out of life. Her marriage sounds absolutely wretched

Absolutely - poor woman.

IcakethereforeIam · 06/11/2022 21:04

I found the Guardian twitter thread! How long have I been gone? Who's the Prime Minister?

Lots of 'Your wife! Bigot!' And similar.

Is Grayson Perry arsed about his pronouns?

twitter.com/guardian/status/1589242548064866304?s=20&t=HiCE29FIDWcOpiXDlm19WQ

WarriorN · 06/11/2022 21:18

Igmum · 06/11/2022 12:48

Good answer, and if it's the Observer that explains it. Yes, it would have been wonderful if she had highlighted the Transwidows.

Drat! I usually spot that! Thanks

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WarriorN · 06/11/2022 21:23

I saw GP's live show before the pandemic, basically about how divisions can have so much in common (basically brexit) very clever and very funny.

He did a hierarchy of life kind of slide and at the top was "sex" (m and f.) he's very clear trans is performative, and as an artist, there's nothing wrong with that, as artists know art is simply a reflection of reality. Not actual reality.

Of course, art has a massive misogyny issue though.

It's gone a bit weird since we all knew that a few decades ago.

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NotBadConsidering · 06/11/2022 21:35

Insight into Grayson Perry, at least he’s honest, which is more than can be said about some others:

Does he still find it sexually exciting? “Oh yes,” he shouts excitedly. “Yeah!” But there is a problem, he says, with being a very public tranny. You mean, you couldn’t be seen at the Royal Academy in a nice frock and a stiffy? He nods enthusiastically. “You couldn’t do it. If I could manage it, I’m sure I’d be thinking how to do it. But I can’t.” He pauses. “My days of a spontaneous erection are long gone, anyway,” he adds a little sadly.

https://amp.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/oct/04/grayson-perry-dress-tranny-art-who-are-you-tv

ReunitedThorns · 08/11/2022 09:46

IcakethereforeIam · 06/11/2022 21:04

I found the Guardian twitter thread! How long have I been gone? Who's the Prime Minister?

Lots of 'Your wife! Bigot!' And similar.

Is Grayson Perry arsed about his pronouns?

twitter.com/guardian/status/1589242548064866304?s=20&t=HiCE29FIDWcOpiXDlm19WQ

I see the pronoun police are out in force on that Twitter thread.

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