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Educate and Celebrate remove patron after Channel 4 performance.

43 replies

Rainbowshit · 27/10/2022 12:07

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www.educateandcelebrate.org/trustees-of-educate-celebrate-remove-jordan-gray-as-a-patron/

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TheBiologyStupid · 27/10/2022 12:09

Funny how these organisations never due their due diligence before the shit hits the fan...!

TheBiologyStupid · 27/10/2022 12:10

D'oh - "do their due diligence" obvs.

Soontobe60 · 27/10/2022 12:15

Surely this is shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted???
“As far as we are aware” just doesn’t cut it. ANY group that works with children in any way should have robust safeguarding checks in place whereby someone with this person’s lengthy and well known online activity is picked up? JG did not get a gig at the Palladium without already being very well known in JGs circle or allies? Even the advertising poster for the gig would make people question their suitability as a patron of a children’s charity FFS.

LunaLights · 27/10/2022 12:21

So JG has lied about going into schools, etc?

Thingybob · 27/10/2022 12:25

LunaLights · 27/10/2022 12:21

So JG has lied about going into schools, etc?

So the video of them boring a classroom full of pupils is fake?

Datun · 27/10/2022 12:28

I'm only just catching up with this person. I didn't know Gray was even part of this organisation, even in the role of patron.

As far as I was concerned, Gray was a smutty comic who took the piss out of their own transgenderism. Writing stuff where they threaten a co-worker with a hate crime, that sort of thing.

It's notable that transgenderism is so often associated with adult sexual performance.

Linking it to children in any way is dodgy (imo).

ScreamingMeMe · 27/10/2022 12:29

Thingybob · 27/10/2022 12:25

So the video of them boring a classroom full of pupils is fake?

Perhaps he wasn't doing it on behalf of E&C? 🤔

Which begs the question what WAS he doing there?

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 27/10/2022 12:32

Patrons are there to promote charities, bring in publicity and donations.

Unless he's had a suddeen career change, and used to be a punch and judy act,what publicity did the charity think he was going to attract?

StillWeRise · 27/10/2022 12:33

what a pathetic statement
surely they must know there is video out there of him in schools, and him talking about going in to schools- are they just going to ignore that?
another organisation to sever ties with
take note, LAs

IcakethereforeIam · 27/10/2022 12:35

'As far as we are aware' doing a lot of heavy lifting.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 27/10/2022 12:38

What does it mean to be a "patron" of Educate and Celebrate? What do their "patrons" do? Couldn't find anything about patronage on the website.

Is there a list of patrons? Maybe FWR could offer to do due diligence for them. (Sorry, just joking.)

FlibbertyGiblets · 27/10/2022 12:40

oo er!

ScreamingMeMe · 27/10/2022 12:49

In Jordan's own words:

Educate and Celebrate remove patron after Channel 4 performance.
Hoardasurass · 27/10/2022 12:51

When is someone with safeguarding training going to be set loose on these "charities "

Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 12:56

So, in the past Jordan seemed to be self deprecating about their own maleness.

Was this song new? I hadn’t noticed it on their YouTube.

And was the strip known to be part of their act? If so, surely if you have a patron you know their current work and check all their activities to ensure they stay in line with the values of the charity.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 27/10/2022 13:02

from the point of view of Educate and Celebrate, I don't see what the issue is and that statement doesn't help me

was the problem her getting her cock out?

getting her cock out has been part of her act for a while, no? why is it a problem now?

(female pronouns used for my own amusement in this case)

IcakethereforeIam · 27/10/2022 13:04

The strip is not new. Jordan came up on a thread about the unfortunate failure of the sh9w tw 'comic', Jen Ives?, at the Fringe. Either on a Sadowitz or Gussie Gripper thread. There was a bit about his show and him coming out naked on stage 'like a toddler' (urg!). That was several months ago.

SquirrelSoShiny · 27/10/2022 13:14

Well exhibitionists gonna exhibit... their todgers.

It's always about the todger in the end 🤷‍♀️

Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 13:21

BTW: if there is a nudity warning for a theatre gig, then people are warned and can choose.

But, that should be something that this charity was fully aware of when maintaining the patron position.

And yes, they should understand that a person stripping for no relevant reason like this (and there would be very few relevant reasons) means lack of understanding boundaries or having too few of their (the patron in question’s) own.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 27/10/2022 13:45

Here's Jordan speaking at Passmore's Academy - according to Jordan for a group called Inspirational Women's Day that sends women into schools to celebrate IWD?

So Jordan is considered an appropriate role model by another group - can't find that group online but wonder whether they'll see Jordan as a fit person to "inspire" children in schools in the future?

MrsJamin · 27/10/2022 14:11

It looks like Jordan visited Passmores for a women's event (🙄) and possibly it had not anything to do with EAC. www.yourharlow.com/2020/03/13/passmores-students-celebrate-female-achievement-and-inspirational-women/

Abitofalark · 27/10/2022 14:20

They're not aware that he has gone into schools! Considering that's what they do and he does, that's a remarkable achievement of unawareness. Why do they have him in their organisation?

What they do in schools and what he would be doing there, presumably:

(From their website):

"We support you to embed gender, gender identity and sexual orientation into the fabric of your School"

That's what is going wrong in schools. Children are being indoctrinated by groups with a specific ideology.

DameHelena · 27/10/2022 14:26

'As far as we are aware' How mealy-mouthed. Clearly either E&C are lying/misinformed or Jordan is. Whichever way, it's not a good look.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/10/2022 14:32

But but but ….that’s discrimination! Marginalising some poor misunderstood exhibitionist who says he is better then a woman because he always ‘takes it anally’ , how are young children going to learn not to mind this sort of honesty and common sense if people like Jordan aren’t allowed to educate them? Disgraceful on the part of the Charity’.