Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anneliese Dodds, Shadow Women & Equalities Secretary of the Labour Party that won't say what a woman is, counts the women in the cabinet

32 replies

ChristinaXYZ · 26/10/2022 11:11

twitter.com/AnnelieseDodds/status/1585023661928370176

The thread ....!

OP posts:
ArabellaScott · 26/10/2022 11:16

Oh, my word.

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 26/10/2022 11:21

Did she just assume the Cabinet's gender?! Shock

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 26/10/2022 11:30

Just shows how these issues are compartmentalize and used when advantageous, but rarely taken seriously. If she really has a problem with the definition of a women, she couldn't make this statement. If she is committed to women in visiable roles she would be able to identify what a women is.

If she doesnt believe that sex matters and believes a self identified gender identity is key to equality for women, she would have to ask each individual their self defined gender indenity before making such a comment.

Helleofabore · 26/10/2022 11:32

Did she go and ask each privately?

zanahoria · 26/10/2022 11:34

At least the Tory women have a chance of being leader

nilsmousehammer · 26/10/2022 11:36

Oh dear.....

I thought she believed that no one could tell what sex anyone was?

zanahoria · 26/10/2022 11:38

Labour just works by quotas. If there is a quota to be filled then they will find the candidates but a different story when there is leadership election.

JacquelinePot · 26/10/2022 11:47

She is bad because she didn't choose to complain that there's no lgbt people in the cabinet*

*not sure if that's true, nor am I sure how this twit knows that either, seeing as sexuality isn't visible and no one can tell what sex other people are

Anneliese Dodds, Shadow Women & Equalities Secretary of the Labour Party that won't say what a woman is, counts the women in the cabinet
Datun · 26/10/2022 11:55

It never ceases to amaze me how everyone suddenly pretends that trans ideology doesn't exist when it suits them to identify biological sex and sexual orientation to score a point.

Bloody hypocrisy.

We see it on here all the time. Women being accused of homophobia by a poster who doesn't believe that sexual orientation exists.

I hope if she ever talks about trans ideology again, that statement will be pointed out to her.

JanieAllen · 26/10/2022 11:56

444 quote tweets roasting her GOOD!

Tanith · 26/10/2022 12:05

Oh do stop it!

Rishi Sunak wouldn’t say, either. Nor would Gillian Keegan - actually, no, Gillian stated that TWAW.

Do you want people to change their minds or not??

MangyInseam · 26/10/2022 12:06

zanahoria · 26/10/2022 11:38

Labour just works by quotas. If there is a quota to be filled then they will find the candidates but a different story when there is leadership election.

I think that's quite astute.

It doesn't just apply to filling jobs either, it's how they seem to think about policy a lot of the time too. Now, anyway, I don't feel that has always been the case.

ChristinaXYZ · 26/10/2022 12:19

Tanith · 26/10/2022 12:05

Oh do stop it!

Rishi Sunak wouldn’t say, either. Nor would Gillian Keegan - actually, no, Gillian stated that TWAW.

Do you want people to change their minds or not??

I agree that people should be allowed to change their minds. But I can see no evidence in this tweet that Dodds has done so. In fact crafting this tweet would have been a way for her to explicitly say she knew what a woman was and wonder where there are fewer biological women in the cabinet. The fact she has not said this is worrying.

I'd have more respect for Penny Mordant for example if she explained she had changed her mind on TWAW rather than just being confusing about what she meant by it and denying she was or every had been a cheerleader for the radical trans ideology.

OP posts:
BernardBlacksMolluscs · 26/10/2022 12:27

i wonder if the penny will drop that until they adopt a logical position on men who role play as women, they can never make any kid of statement about sexism and be taken seriously?

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 26/10/2022 12:34

Tanith · 26/10/2022 12:05

Oh do stop it!

Rishi Sunak wouldn’t say, either. Nor would Gillian Keegan - actually, no, Gillian stated that TWAW.

Do you want people to change their minds or not??

I dont know what you mean with this comment, but if you think people here dont criticise the Conservatives, you should have been here when Theresa May was attempting to reform the GRC process.

derxa · 26/10/2022 12:38

She's an absolute joke. The comments 😆

FemaleAndLearning · 26/10/2022 12:47

Oh my! What a thing to say when she doesn't know what a woman is.

YouSirNeighMmmm · 26/10/2022 12:52

I would love to see that Twitter thread as it would appear in an alternative universe where huge numbers of gender critical people weren't banned.

LaughingPriest · 26/10/2022 12:57

There needs to be an equivalent to the Godwin's Law - that anyone claiming that TWAW will eventually make it crystal clear that this belief requires simultaneously knowing and denying that a woman is female.

You can't even have a "matching" or "mismatching" gender and sex if there's nothing female about a woman.

ChristinaXYZ · 26/10/2022 13:02

LaughingPriest · 26/10/2022 12:57

There needs to be an equivalent to the Godwin's Law - that anyone claiming that TWAW will eventually make it crystal clear that this belief requires simultaneously knowing and denying that a woman is female.

You can't even have a "matching" or "mismatching" gender and sex if there's nothing female about a woman.

This!

OP posts:
Igmum · 26/10/2022 15:16

I love the fact that almost everyone on the thread is anti TWAW. Someone has even started a poll on there asking whether Eddie Izzard is a woman. 430 responses so far, 97% no

cesspoolclowncar · 26/10/2022 18:23

Does she ID as a woman? If so, why?

Because one of the replies got it right when they identified her as a clown.

Pixiedust1234 · 26/10/2022 18:57

Sorry for thread hijacking but in case some of you haven't seen this. Its kinda linked...ish

www.mumsnet.com/talk/mumsnet_live_events/4663774-got-a-question-for-keir-starmer-or-bridget-phillipson

MariEllie · 26/10/2022 19:34

Sort of mentality you get from Labour. First can’t tell who is or who isn’t a woman. Then must have quotas no matter what the ability or suitability. Absolute plonkers! If they ever get into government you know what to expect from the nutters.

MarshaMelrose · 26/10/2022 19:42

So Labour is moving towards having yet another white, male PM.
The conservatives have had 3 women and one Asian PMs but the Tories are the ones that are non-inclusive?
Honestly, though, I bet the Tories hope she carries on like that. It's a gift to them. 🤦