Kemi Badenoch appointed new Minister for Women and Equalities

[Manteiga]

And International Trade Secretary. I'd have preferred to see her as Secretary of State for Education in addition to Minister for Women and Equalities, but this is good news.

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That's a really good point, Rufus.

If one doesn't pause is that a misgendering hate offence?

The length of pause may be a sign of how earnestly one believes TWAW?

Article about KB in Spiked

Good article about her "attack" on Pink News

Describing trans women as "men who think women is a costume" is transphobic as hell.

@DadJoke describing women as a feeling in someone’s head is misogynistic and sexist as hell. Men cannot be women however spinny their skirt is however or pink their beret is. And men do not belong in women’s. toilets. It’s always the men who really really should not be allowed in those spaces who are desperate to get in. Decent men wouldn’t dream of invading womens spaces.

Let's use the word 'male'. Done.

This! Or male transsexual, which is a legally recognised term (unlike "transwoman", with or without a gap).

Yup. I agree. Male transsexual and female transsexual. Say what we see.

TheBiologyStupid · Today 21:28
Let's use the word 'male'. Done

This! Or male transsexual, which is a legally recognised term (unlike "transwoman", with or without a gap)

I think male transsexual is a better word but I thought somehow it was considered ‘wrong’ these days.

This is part of the problem. Defining who is true transexuals or not.

Hence why I have gone for ‘male’.

Apparently we have been told now for a couple of years, no one denies their ‘biology’. I am just holding people to that.

As transpeople are just normal ordinary people without any special needs or agendas, using their sex when sex matters should be no issue.

Because no one is denying ‘biology’.

So being categorised as male should be no issue at all.

No males above puberty in female single sex spaces. It is uncontroversial to say it and there is no ambiguity at all.

It's in written law though, unlike "gender identity" or "transwoman" which have no legal validity whatsoever.

TheBiologyStupid · Today 21:57

^ScrollingLeaves · Today 21:41

“TheBiologyStupid · Today 21:28
“Let's use the word 'male'. Done”

“This! Or male transsexual, which is a legally recognised term (unlike "transwoman", with or without a gap)”

I think male transsexual is a better word but I thought somehow it was considered ‘wrong’ these days.

It's in written law though, unlike "gender identity" or "transwoman" which have no legal validity whatsoever.

What about in that bench-book (is this the right term?) written by a male transsexual QC or lawyer to advise the judiciary?

The Independent has documented Badenoch’s lfalsehoods in her first parliamentary comments in the new role, attacking Pink News.

The "Independent" is almost as dubious a news source as Pink News is. Well done for letting them wind you up and frothing over a complete non-story, I guess.

From Jo Bartosch's Spiked article linked upthread:

Here Cohen is protesting too much. To call Badenoch’s claim ‘misinformation’ or a ‘fabrication’ ignores that there is more than a grain of truth to it. It is technically true that neither Pink News nor its CEO lost a case in court to Cherry, but they did have a near miss. After Pink News falsely alleged that Cherry was ‘being investigated for homophobia’, she called in her lawyers and managed to get Pink News to apologise ‘unreservedly’y’_. It had to acknowledge that she is a lesbian who has ‘spent a lifetime marching and campaigning for the rights of the LGBT+ community’. Pink News paid her legal fees and donated the cost of the damages to an LGBT charity at Cherry’s request.^

And Julie Bindel had a similar outcome, although not specifically referenced by Kemi in Parliament, earlier she wrote about it:

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It's not transwomen it's trans women

If you're referring to male trans people, rather than female, which I assume you are, it's neither. MTF trans people is what I say on here due to the rules, elsewhere I am blunter.

It's man.

Adult human male.

If a woman is an adult human female, then an adult human male is a man.

For the purposes of sex segregation, it's man. For the purposes of identifying the sexes, it's man.

We only say male because we've been intimidated into thinking that saying man is a heinous crime. Like saying woman, funnily enough.

if we want to be counted as women, adult human females, then we have to say man.

I do think we are going to have to start saying "man" to break the spell. The gaslighting has gone on too long.

Amazing how a rather useful thread became, yet again, about toilets.

I think some people don't like these discussions.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 23:11

The Independent has documented Badenoch’s lfalsehoods in her first parliamentary comments in the new role, attacking Pink News

The "Independent" is almost as dubious a news source as Pink News is. Well done for letting them wind you up and frothing over a complete non-story, I guess

and
Here Cohen is protesting too much. To call Badenoch’s claim ‘misinformation’ or a ‘fabrication’ ignores that there is more than a grain of truth to it. It is technically true that neither Pink News nor its CEO lost a case in court to Cherry, but they did have a near miss. After Pink News falsely alleged that Cherry was ‘being investigated for homophobia’, she called in her lawyers and managed to get Pink News to apologise ‘unreservedly’y’_. It had to acknowledge that she is a lesbian who has ‘spent a lifetime marching and campaigning for the rights of the LGBT+ community’. Pink News paid her legal fees and donated the cost of the damages to an LGBT charity at Cherry’s request.

And Julie Bindel had a similar outcome, although not specifically referenced by Kemi in Parliament, earlier she wrote about it:

Thanks for pointing all this out Eresh. It is extraordinary to see the amount that gets said that turns out to be misleading or basically untrue.

Pedants' Corner exists for those who wish to bicker about spelling, but suffice it to say that prefixes aren't followed by a space.

Hence:
Transatlantic
Transparent

It's not transwomen it's trans women

It is quite something to see, the anger males have when women want their spaces back.

I just imagined @dad pounding that into the keyboard, in a rage, muttering it through gritted teeth. Pure male rate at uppity women.

THERES A PEDANTS CORNER?!?!!

How THE FUCK did I not know about this?

This with big fat bells on

The one in Private Eye? I've had a couple of letters published in it in the past.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/pedants_corner

Enjoy!

Thanks!

This!

Man and woman. Adult human male and adult human female respectively. Three words compressed into one in each case. A win for plain English, clear, effective and efficient.