Mordaunt out, Sunak in: a good result (I hope)

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That's it, really. I'm not a Tory but I was desperately hoping for someone sensible to be in charge for the next two years.

Liz Truss very disappointing on this issue (wasting Kemi's talents on a trade post) - glad she's gone.

Boris would have caused more chaos.

Penny... well, need I say more.

Finally feel I can breathe!

Mourdaunt was never a real possibility, imo. She crashed and burned last time and Truss made it even less likely anyone would take a chance on her.

I think RS is smart and will look to keep things stable for now. I hope this gives enough time to get some things like the Cass report finished up and some actions taken. Even Labour may then have to back down to some degree, though I think they are likely to maintain their id pol framework overall.

Thank God for that. Not a Tory but he appears to be sane, which is a bonus. Mordaunt has an interesting family .. not a good choice for women.

I just came to post this.
I suspect that this could be the best possible outcome. I'm sure that I remember RS saying some very gc things.

couple of news stories from back in July:

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/29/rishi-sunak-protect-words-man-woman-mother/

news.sky.com/story/amp/tory-leadership-race-rishi-sunak-vows-to-stop-woke-nonsense-and-left-wing-agitators-in-latest-pledge-12661643

Also he has daughters, and I just read that he listens to them re environmental stuff, so maybe he’ll be tuned in to female ideas in general…?

I think he was the only sensible option and I wish they'd got him in the first place. Might say more about attitudes of party members voting for a very English Liz Truss over the chancellor that just happens to be British Asian.

Here’s a Pink News article from yesterday (archive link but it’s not paywalled): archive.ph/3Lnxv

It’s quite funny. They seem incredulous that Sunak can be opposed to anti LGBT discrimination whilst also not believing that humans can actually change sex.

Despite this being the majority position of UK residents on both the left and right of politics, across social classes, religions and age groups.

Screenshot of the relevant bit from the PN article posted above:

Yeah all the politicians and journalists on tv look very relieved. Feels like a grown up is back in charge after a couple of rando fanatic incompetents.

Is also pretty cool to have our first Hindu and first Asian PM. Feels like a new era - and Britain could certainly use one!

Is also pretty cool to have our first Hindu and first Asian PM.

Agree. Find it rather ironic that it is the Conservative party that has delivered on both female and ethnic minority PMs now though!
Labour can hardly claim to be the party of diversity really.

Feel I can finally breathe!

Me too.

If Labour stick with the imported American-left positions we’re going to have the super weird experience of watching a white, millionaire, Oxford-educated man criticising a brown, millionaire, Oxford-educated man over IDPOL.

Part of me is looking forward to this element. Part which I realize I should crush. But there is something about white progressives trying to impose id pol narratives on the people they are trying to free I find hilariously funny.

It's basically the same as "turkeys voting for Christmas" but more obvious that you are essentially saying that they are stupid. Gives away the hand a little too clearly.

The main win I see is a period of stability meaning that the next General Election will be in 2024, or even very early 2025, by which time more wheels should have fallen off gender identity ideology. If we're going to get a Labour government I want it to come after the full Cass report has been published and relevant guidelines implemented and when people have realised that uncritical acceptance of the ideology is very risky.

From the Pink News article:

The same source claimed Sunak would launch a “manifesto for women’s rights” if he became prime minister. Paradoxically, that “manifesto” for women’s rights would include a ban on trans women in sport, his ally said.

That's not paradoxical.

I hope he does @NotTerfNorCis. I definitely think he's a much better bet than Truss on this issue.

Agreed re a period of stability but OMG - just look at what they're done. Aside from the shitshow of Brexit, I saw this yesterday from Conservatives for Women. It's a chilling analysis of the direct responsibility a politician like Mordaunt has for the appalling assault on women's rights and child safeguarding.

It shows how one very self invested individual, presumably compromised by family influences, has caused the utmost damage and harm - especially to children and women.

www.conservativesforwomen.org/penny-mordaunt-helped-to-push-gender-ideology-out-across-every-institution-in-the-uk

Waiting with bated breath to see who he puts in cabinet. Hope Kemi gets a more central job. He might feel he has to appoint a cross section, here's hoping there's a GC majority.

Are you super rich then op?

Because Sunak is just about to launch a very hawkish package of severe cuts and corrections you can forget your cosy cushioning from the energy crisis etc, things are just about to get very very difficult for most people. He cares solely about balancing the books and appeasing the markets, the rest my friend is going to be very very difficult to bear for the next two years.

I dreaded this development due to my background, and I know how much people will suffer. And that suffering is just about to worsen. He is there for one reason, and one reason only and it is not for your benefit trust me.

This.

There should have been a GE.

I am absolutely dreading the budget

One thing the three Mordaunt siblings have in common is a desire to overcome boundaries around the rights and safety of women and girls.

I agree pinkfrogs I just can not understand why people are clamouring so much and celebrating, it is like they haven't listened to a single word he has said, or understand remotely what he stands for.

He is a banker through and through, first and foremost and has been 'installed' to do a job - not to serve you or me - he is part of a very hawkish and ruthless wing of the party and really watch this space. When the dawning realisation happens across the land, it will be far far too late.

Indeed nauticant
It's an enraging read but also shows why lobbyists try to influence government so much. The levels of harm to women and especially to children are off the scale with so much of it coming from the captured of government agencies who funded and promoted these deeply dubious groups and told schools they were the good guys.
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This does seem to constitute significant evidence for one of the class actions involving the growing number of detransitioners. It's clear evidence of the direct link to politicians and civil servants pushing a dodgy unevidenced ideology to the detriment of protected groups, especially young children and in open defiance of the Nolan principles.

Tbf I don’t think anyone here is celebrating in a general way, only in a, pick-a-Conservative-from-these-very-limited-options way?

None of the options were going to be fiscally beneficial for working class or lower-middle class people, let alone people entirely reliant on benefits due to disability or serious illness.

So the choice comes down to fiscally shit for most of us and knows what a woman is.

Or fiscally shit for most of us and pretends not to know what a woman is.

’Not a Tory’ wasn’t one of the options available.

Get away with your nuance TheClogLady, there's only one question this thread must address: how evil are Tories on a scale of 1 to 100? There must be no thinking beyond that.