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She played the piano with her penis

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NotRightNowNo · 23/10/2022 17:16

So I am told anyway. I can't bring myself to watch it. Has anyone been brave enough?

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CarefreeMe · 23/10/2022 22:35

Firstly, how can you call yourself transgender when you have both breasts and a penis - that doesn’t make sense.

Secondly, in what works is this entertainment!!

I don’t care if this was a male, female, transgender or whatever this person claims to be.
But this isn’t entertainment and it’s just embarrassing.

Unseelie · 23/10/2022 22:36

🤣 What a loonie. Hope he gets sectioned before he goes over the edge.

Unseelie · 23/10/2022 22:38

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HootyMcboob76 · 23/10/2022 22:41

"I'd correct the statement from 'she' to 'he'. Women do not have penises."
"They do if they are a pre op transsexual.
Hope this helps."

Nope.
They have penises because they are XY males with a male body. They produce small gametes. And when they have their dick lobbed off and inverted, they are STILL males. What you are suggesting is that a man who has penile cancer and has a penectomy to remove his penis suddenly becomes female.
Amputation of the penis does not make someone female, it makes them a man with no penis.
Saying you are a woman does not make you one.
But you know this already
Women do not and have never had penises. There are two sexes, and sex is immutable, unchangeable and fixed.

HOPE THIS HELPS.

Ama22 · 23/10/2022 22:54

Please complain to Ofcom if you feel as horrified as I do. I think the lyrics were the thing for me. What hatred towards women.

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UnfortunatelyUnfortunate · 23/10/2022 22:56

Sugarsandwiches · 23/10/2022 19:09

Just read the lyrics on Twitter. Attached.

To me the lyrics read satire. I think he is purposefully highlighting the absurdity of the current situation for comic effect.

I am the Lizard King. I can do anything.
That other women can. But then what do you expect? I used to be a man.
Sexism!

oakleaffy · 23/10/2022 22:57

Silly little man...Who cares about his pathetic penis.

oakleaffy · 23/10/2022 22:59

This idiot is an exhibitionist.
A pathetic little fool.

1Week · 23/10/2022 23:00

hotdiggetydog · 23/10/2022 20:00

They do if they are a pre op transsexual.
Hope this helps.

They don't.
Ever.
No matter what name they call themselves.

Hth 😊

StillWeRise · 23/10/2022 23:02

I've just watched this and I agree it could be read as satire as it's so absurd
however
he has artificial breasts and possibly facial surgery
that's a lot of trouble to go to for satire
I thought his naked body looked totally bizarre, like a late teenaged boy with 2 wierd hemispheres stuck on his chest- hairless, male in outline, yet undeveloped
just wierd
and the lyrics- well either misogynistic or deeply ironic but given the above I'll go with misogynistic

ArabellaScott · 23/10/2022 23:04

twitter.com/Channel4/status/1583575101873586176?cxt=HHwWgICg5cfK_vkrAAAA

Worth reading the twitter response. And checking the ratio.

Nobody is buying it.

HootyMcboob76 · 23/10/2022 23:06

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1Week · 23/10/2022 23:11

Is it that humans MUST have a sacred caste?

In our post pill world, where sex = recreation and everything is pornified, yet fewer young people are actually having sex - must our sacred caste be sexual boundary pushers?

EndlessTea · 23/10/2022 23:25

I haven’t rtft. I found it quite disturbing to watch. The contempt for women.

I know sometimes people can be sarcastic and kid around so much they eventually can’t tell whether they are even taking the piss any more, or what is really them and what is the constructed comedy persona - they end up a parody of themselves. So when he (people who waggle their penises about are definitely ‘he’ in my world) is doing all the stuff about ‘me me me’, I think he doesn’t really know if if he is saying all for laughs or not. There’s definitely a lot of compulsion going on. Stripping off and prancing around naked.
There’s also a lot of resentment about the fact that heterosexual men fancy women in there too. Self-soothing talk about how they’d secretly prefer to be with him because women are surely so disappointing. Perhaps that’s what he is doing. Trying to seduce straight men?

It feels a bit deranged and I think a lot of the laughs are people genuinely shocked and some of the applause was prurient curiosity. Perhaps the women heartily applauding in the audience had no idea that ‘transitioning’ generally means at max getting fake breasts and taking cross sex hormones to stop the hair receding, so they thought it took courage to get his cock out?

Joolsin · 23/10/2022 23:47

Have put a complaint in to Ofcom. Thanks to PPs for the link.

Hillcrest2022 · 24/10/2022 00:04

I've also submitted a complaint. Thanks for the link.

RedToothBrush · 24/10/2022 00:32

inappropriateraspberry · 23/10/2022 21:29

How can he say he's a woman and in the next breath, claim to be better than a woman? So he himself knows he's not a woman, but also doesn't want to be called a man? He's proud of his boobs, and also his penis.
If he believes he's a true woman, then why sing about all of this? Why not do funny songs about other stuff?

The only thing that makes him different to other males is saying he is a woman. Give me a break. Getting your cock out is male behavior. Women don't do it. Why? Cos we don't have cocks!!!

What is fascinating to see play out is the following :

Women saying that they don't want to share toilets with males because they don't want to see dicks. So TRAs say we are obsessed by genitalia. Only for trans comedian to strip naked on stage whop their knob out and play keyboard.

Its laughable. Why is it there seems to be a problem with exhibitionism going on here? What is that all about? And its this point that woman have no reason nor right to complain about sexist lyrics and cocks out. Cos we just have to deal with men who want to show us their cocks.

You can hardly argue that its not exhibitionism after that performance can you?

And to cap it off, this male is actively involved as patron of a charity that works with children.

1Week · 24/10/2022 00:37

There's a massive difference between the Hayley Cropper type transwoman - probably the most numerous, I hope they find their voices soon - and this cock waggling misogynist children's charity worker who demands to be in the room when your 12 yr old daughter is changing out of her swimming suit.

BitossiBlues · 24/10/2022 01:03

Re playing the piano, it was just squashing a flaccid dick against the keys, not Rachmaninov or anything

More like Manwithfakerachgettinov

IcakethereforeIam · 24/10/2022 01:18

Well, I've heard of polishing the ivories....

GeriSignfeld · 24/10/2022 05:30

Is it just me, or are the majority comments online seem to be critical about this performance?

The news headlines on this performance seem to be out of touch with most people & not in line with majority opinion.

I think this shows how "uncaptured" the general public is when it comes to the gender debate & many don't realise the existence of this debate at all.

So when the average person sees something on free to air TV, they feel free to speak their mind, without feeling like they have to censor themselves.

These organisations like Mermaids (ACON here in Aus) can infiltrate organisations, media & government however they like, but if these organisations stop representing the interests of the average person, then this ideology will crumble & become a fad of the past eventually.

This isn't like with gay marriage, where people were strongly opposed to the concept, but once they actually got to know more regular gay people they warmed to the idea because it didn't affect them & gays weren't forcing themselves or their culture onto others.

People are not immediately opposed to the idea of trans people having rights, & nobody is denying the existence of trans people - but the more people actually see & experience the full force of "woke culture" they seem to push back against it.

I think TRAs feel like this is a big win for them, but long term it could be a real misstep to continue shoving this behaviour in people's faces.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 24/10/2022 05:47

Ama22 · 23/10/2022 22:54

Please complain to Ofcom if you feel as horrified as I do. I think the lyrics were the thing for me. What hatred towards women.

ofcomforms.secure.force.com/formentry/SitesFormCSLEStandardsComplaints

Thank you, I've just complained.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 24/10/2022 05:50

Is it just me, or are the majority comments online seem to be critical about this performance?

It is and the only thing TRA can shout is it's transphobic not to enjoy the performance. In reality, they've done their cause harm with this and realise the tide is beginning to turn.

GeriSignfeld · 24/10/2022 06:00

@Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious

Yes, to liken this performance to Embarrassing Bodies is way off the mark

The whole premise of that show was that we all have lumps, bumps & embarrassing things but it's OK!

I forget their slogan now, but they would say it every episode & really drove that point home & it was intended to be an empowering message to all

It was a medical show & people watched it because they were interested in seeing & learning about people's bodies.

You went into the program informed of what was to come, there was an implied consent by tuning in that you would expect to see private parts of people's bodies.

Did the people in the audience of this Friday Night Live know what was to come? Did the audience at home?

No, so am not having this comparison & to say so is being disingenuous

GeriSignfeld · 24/10/2022 06:06

Would also like to add that here in Australia, Idol contestant & TV presenter Axle Whitehead got his penis out at the 2006 ARIA awards & was swiftly blacklisted. Never heard of again.

Due to the live broadcast delay, it didn't even make it to air & was still such a massive scandal at the time.

Just can't believe this is where we are at only 16 years later & on UK TV, which I had such respect + love of.