Mum takes 14 yr old to Poland for top surgery

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It seems as though a market has developed for 'gender affirming' surgeries in Poland being offered at very low prices.
To make such life chaging decisions about your child's healthy body, paying for and enabling it I can't understand.

Dear God. I really hope that this isn’t real. Top surgery = double mastectomy. The girl won’t even have had fully grown breasts.

That's horrific

Are you sure this is true? It’s a very Catholic country where even abortion is illegal as it’s against Gods will. I doubt they’re doing gender reassignment so easily.

I'd need to see this somewhere 'official' a 14 yr old surely doesn't have enough breast tissue to remove yet.

Completely unnecessary double mastectomy??
Whatever happened to "First do no harm"?

That post reads more like an advert tbh than a real parental post

I've been on reddit and there seems to be a consistent posting history indicating this might be true (even though this never happens and kids aren't being operated on...)

Heartbreaking. That poor child.

That’s FGM. That’s safeguarding. Hope this kids school steps up and does what the need to (or it will all come crashing down on them too).

This is undoubtedly the case. If it’s a real case (not extremely irresponsible advertising), then social services should be very interested and taking intervention. Actually the services should be having an investigation should be having a serious investigation into the serious failings that led to a parent being able to have their child’s body mutilated abroad.

I wish parents like this would have their children taken away. It's absolutely disgraceful to allow a child to permanently mutilate themselves.

They should really be prosecuted, frankly. And education, health and children’s services should be answering serious questions about how it came to be that no one noticed this child was in imminent danger of harm from parent(s) in the grip of a fashionable ideology.

That is what would be happening. So I’m going to guess it’s either an attention seeking online fantasist (likely) or someone with a dubious agenda.

They should really be prosecuted, frankly. And education, health and children’s services should be answering serious questions about how it came to be that no one noticed this child was in imminent danger of harm from parent(s) in the grip of a fashionable ideology.

Teachers should be looking out for this. But at the moment many schools seem to be the main proponents of this ideology.

Agree that it’s the “new” FGM, albeit taking place in plain sight via SM with smiley faces, rainbows and balloons - which makes it all the more grotesque. Presumably these double mastectomies take place in operating theatres using sterile equipment etc, but otherwise: yes, it’s akin to FGM and schools and SS should be all over it.

The school I work in would probably do a flag waving school trip to one of the Polish clinics.

I mean.....this is FGM basically isn't it?

I hope it's not real - someone posting for screenshots to horrify?? Because it is horrifying.

14? I didnt even have boobs at 14. I was still playing with bugs/frogs at 14.

How did we get from.normalising being different and how families are made up to full on thinking a 14 year old has capability to decide she wants her breasts removed and forever being unable to choose to breast feed her babies she doesn't even know if she wants yet.

Wtf please let this not be true

Think of all all the things we don't think 14 year olds are mature enough to do - vote, drive, have sex, leave school, live by themselves, work more than 12 hours a week during term time, get a tattoo - suddenly now they are mature enough to choose to undergo a serious operation and permanently mutilate their bodies? Even if you "just" class it as cosmetic surgery, how many surgeons would recommend breast implants for a 14 year old? Why is removal of all breast tissue treated so differently?

I'm no longer surprised about stories like this having read about Sidhbh Gallagher in the US. She has operated on 13 and 14 year old girls.

4w.pub/tiktok-gender-doctor-per-breast-removal-on-13-year-old-girl/

lilymaynard.com/wielding-the-sidhbh-gallagher/

Horrific and school should be into this. In my setting I think it's beginning to be seen as an issue.

I had raised safeguarding concerns about teens transitioning before the summer holidays. Basically (as far as I've been told - safeguarding don't have to keep the reporter updated) it was just seen as a 'transition journey' and not seen as a concern then.

I've met with safeguarding leads this autumn and they now seem to understand that it can be a safeguarding issue. With the Tavistock being closed down and Mermaids as under intense scrutiny, people seem to be waking up. I showed them the files of our trans-identifying young people. They all have autism, mental health issues, trauma and school refusal etc. It's getting hard to ignore now.

Anyone completing the NHS consultation into paediatric gender healthcare should mention this possibility. As pp said, it needs to be treated like FGM.

How is this not illegal?

Exactly! 14 years old is a child living in a world whereby social media is heavily influential to a degree we are barely grasping. Anyone can find others to fan the flames of any obscure idea until it’s completely normal.
Legally cannot agree to sexual intercourse and an adult should be charged with rape if they have sex with them BUT can agree to life changing surgery. This is so so wrong and I can only hope it’s not true.

I always struggle to see how adults often refuse to pay for extended warranties etc and are always suspicious of any shop who wants to flog you some kind of insurance or protection or extras to bump up the sale profits. Adults immediately see they can get it cheaper elsewhere or its all about the money amd there are cheaper ways round. Like buying a phone outright and going fir a sim only deal etc

But there's no comprehension that with a major surgery like this you will also be paying the same dr for scar revisions, repairs, infection treatments, referral to physio therapists when scar tissue limits mobility. That when surgeons who do this are scattered far and wide without big selections available locally, basically meaning you have little choice but to return when things go wrong, that there's no incentive to get it right the first time. Drs make thousands out of these surgeries. Thousands fir surgeries where let's face it the outcomes are often awful and still they get to go ahead and make their money .

Yet those who stand against this, who make no money and infection lose jobs lose their platforms lose their speaking engagements and in fact incurr huge costs both personally and financially are still the bad guys.

How can it not be obvious.