Anyone following the James Esses vs UKCP test case?

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Just seen this on DM website. So far he has won the right to sue and the therapeutic approach to gender seems to be the central issue: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11331573/Ex-barrister-wins-right-sue-kicked-degree-gender-critical-views.html
What happens next? Do they wait months and months for another hearing or do they tend to happen quite fast once the preliminary has reached court?

@DameMaud

I think you raise a good point in terms of my own therapists stance on this issue. I have therapy this evening actually so will ask her.

It would be good to know the outcome - only if you are happy to share@Sparklybutold
I know I have felt concerned about this when considering going back into my own therapy- especially if wanting to process these specific issues and the psychologically traumatic experience of being dismissed/judged as difficult or hateful (cultural messaging)/being an outlier/feeling gaslit etc.
When professional orgs take an overt stance, this certainly adds another block to engaging in therapy and a block to trust- if you feel you have to hold back a part of yourself. There are enough blocks to trust to get through as there is for most people!

So I had my personal therapy and a brief supervision session. Both were baffled at my tutors actions and have been very supportive. I sent my reply to my supervisor that I have sent to the tutor concerned, as I have declined the meeting whilst picking up on the breach of confidentiality. My supervisor felt it was professional and succinct. Let's see what happens!

Interesting that both echoed some of the comments here about the tutor potentially being triggered.

I’m glad you’re getting some good help with this. I expect that getting qualified will allow you to help more people than anything else. Don’t feel that you have to take this tutor on by yourself.

So pleased to hear that @Sparklybutold ! So glad you can feel supported and free of some/all of that fear.
Thanks for reporting back!

I’m so glad you are getting some real-world (and online!) support now.

You are absolutely in the right and thankfully the world is waking up to your position now.

UPDATE

So the meeting about how I was, and my polite decline of said meeting has now been changed to this is not a request.

I am angry and scared. I have contacted student union, my supervisor, BACP ethics hub. My heart just feels so deflated.

Oh, Sparkly.

You could also contact Sex Matters - sex-matters.org/

Take someone with you.

Say nothing.

think of this meeting as an opportunity for you to gather info on whatever it is they are objecting to/planning to take action on.

Don’t give them any info in return at this stage.

Ask for everything they say in writing and tell them you’ll give it proper consideration and give your own reply in writing.

and yes, contact Sex Matters and Legal Feminist too.

So sorry to hear that, Sparkly. Sex Matters and Legal Feminist sounds like good advice. Fingers and toes crossed for you.

When is it? Who is it with? Someone else able to join you? Personal tutor? Or recorded video call perhaps?

Thanks for updating us sparkly.
I think you need independent legal advice or similar. People have suggested legal feminist. There is also the free speech union who have lawyers on hand.
I agree take someone with you.
It's escalated ridiculously. I've re read your posts. It's really strange that your colleague found it distressing that you told them about the cass review & changing tack in how to treat children w gd. Nit that you were transphobic but they found discussing evidence in your field if study distressing. I find it distressing that a

Sorry - posted too soon! ... that a mental health professional would react like that.

I assume you've seen the new NHS draft guidelines?

It's a shame your situation doesnt have its own thread, but it's probably safer this way.

The only thing i would add is that ppl here & the gc campaign groups might see it in terms of progressing the gc point if view. But your first priority might be to get qualified and not have lots of friction.

Good luck and keep us posted.

@Impossiblenurse I've contacted student union and passed everything to them. Including my apparent egregious private conversation about trans issues within psychotherapy (with her permission). I have spoken to her since and she states she did feel pressured and that the tutor also asked to see the conversation. My colleague declined the second request. It seems confidentiality goes out the window if the tutors/this person gets involved.

@Manderleyagain I did think about hijacking this thread but as I'm in it it does provide me a layer of protection. I've contacted James and we've discussed what's going on. I also had a reply back from thoughtful therapists outlining the legal aspect which I've also sent to the union for consideration.

I didn't go in today as I had an awful night sleep and woke up shaking and extremely disassociated (this has triggered previous trauma). I spoke with my supervisor today who is bemused by the whole thing and reassures me I have done nothing wrong. I did also contact legal femisnists and sex matters but haven't had anything yet. I'm having to stop trying to second guess the tutors motivations (although it's pretty clear) as I find I start gaslighting myself thinking I'm this terrible person. Fortunately I have a good support network (of which this forms part of it - so thank you).

I have a meeting with the union tomorrow and they should have gotten all correspondence so ill see what they say. I will request all comms to go through them and will remain largely quiet in the meeting, because at this stage the meeting is not for my benefit. I have also arranged a meeting with an ethics advisor at the BACP - that's next Tuesday, before my meeting on Wednesday so I should be reasonably prepared.

@Manderleyagain

Yep seen the new NHS guidelines and the UK APC report and of course the case report, but will post here just to make sure I haven't missed anything?

cass.independent-review.uk/publications/interim-report/

acpuk.org.uk/the-cass-review-and-its-implications-psychologically-informed-considerations-for-the-future/

www.england.nhs.uk/commissioning/spec-services/npc-crg/gender-dysphoria-clinical-programme/implementing-advice-from-the-cass-review/

@Manderleyagain have I missed anything?

I'm sure you are sparkly but record absolutely everything - dated and timed with as fas as possible your contemporaneous recollections.

Beware of corridor conversations - maybe rehearse a response so if this bullying individual challenges you when you're not prepared, put a boundary in and state that you'll meet with them at the prearranged time with a witness and you've nothing to discuss at this time? Maybe also minimise discussions with that colleague and peers until you're certain who can be trusted? Especially if the colleague is running back to the tutor because they've been put under pressure?

Awful position you've been put in. Wishing you well and hopefully you'll get some shit hot support from those mentioned upthread.

@MrsOvertonsWindow good advice to record everything and to put firm boundaries in place