Graham Norton has terminated his Twitter account after attacking JK Rowling

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Well that's one less beardy man on there defending rape and death threats.

I think it's wrong to celebrate someone else being cancelled when this board is full of people outraged at others being silenced for having GC views. I'm GC and support JK Rowling but I won't celebrate anyone being hounded off twitter.

"Attacking" doing a lot of heavy lifting here...

@TrainedByCats

This, from her tweet: "Very much enjoying the recent spate of bearded men stepping confidently onto their soapboxes to define what a woman is and throw their support behind rape and death threats to those who dare disagree. You may mock, but takes real bravery to come out as an Old Testament prophet."

Excellent news. Didn't know he was another one to add to the list but noted.

See ya Graham!

He doesn't understand the problem and he hasn't bothered to find out. He does, understand, however, that it's a hot button issue and he clearly thought that he could say something glib and people would believe that he had simply risen above it all.

He's wrong. Cancel culture is depriving women of their bloody livelihoods. It's dragging one after the other, in a relentless stream, through the bloody courts.

It's a massive threat to women's rights.

But he's just another bloody man who sees women in this as not even worth mentioning, because clearly, it's men who are the experts on women's spaces.

And yes, people did find some issue with him and Stephen Fry in the past, where they funded a girl's mastectomy.

That would've been bloody awful then, and it's bloody awful now. But of course, they wouldn't have done it if they thought it was bloody awful. "The right side of history", has worn just about as well as we always thought it would.

I don't blame anyone for leaving Twitter. It's a stinking pond.

But wouldn't it be ironic if he left Twitter, lest he was cancelled for minimising cancel culture.

I think you're confusing Graham Norton with Billy Bragg.

Perhaps, so fair enough, but why is Graham Norton being dragged into this by JKR then if he didn't say her views were problematic? If the only thing he has said is his interview, then yes, JKR is putting words in his mouth. Same thing that she and others claim has been done to her.

JK Rowling - received numerous death and rape threats for years. Still on Twitter.

Graham Norton - says her views are problematic and doesn't think there's an issue with cancel culture, it's accountability. Women respond with examples. Women also point out that he has indeed got involved with the trans debate, not least by contributing a hefty chunk to a double mastectomy. People also point out that he has on several occasions been really bloody cruel to women. Receives zero threats or abuse. Leaves Twitter.

Honestly don't care about one fewer misogynist on Twitter who only left because he felt sorry for himself.

Absolutely this. I saw the interview and thought his remarks were sensible and measured, rather than the vitriol that often crops up on this topic.

If he's been hounded off Twitter it's nothing for anyone to be proud of.

It isn't her fault at all. But all the criticism online is of her and a lot of it is from seemingly mild mannered posters, not the usual frothing, flag waving idiots. It is supposedly her supporters who have gone after him. But no, it's not her fault, it's just a shame that this has happened when the tide was possibly turning.

The timeline goes:
Graham has JK on his show
Graham gets a load of stick for it from TRAs
Graham writes a piece in The Times defending his decision and calling JK's views "problematic" and saying that she enjoys the "pub brawl" nature of getting abuse (i.e. rape and death threats) on twitter.
In the meantime shit is going down with Mermaids and people start getting jumpy.
Graham then gets asked about cancel culture and now tries to distance himself "ask the experts, I'm just a celebrity" without reversing on his previous claims that JK is problematic and enjoys the twitter abuse. He also fans the flames by saying cancel culture is just accountability because people who get fired can always go to the newspapers.
People point out he can't pretend he's neutral all of a sudden after being a bit of a twat and then dig into further lack of neutrality.
Graham decides that accountability is a bit much after all and deletes his twitter.

Bit cowardly of him to delete rather than step in and engage.

Receives zero threats or abuse.

In fairness, you don't know this.

If he's said his voice has no value and doesn't want to be dragged into the conversation, obviously beyond saying her views are problematic (if that was him, still unsure) then that's his incentive. Why would he immediately go back on that and start an entire thread on Twitter about what he did and didn't mean? He doesn't want his voice heard, so isn't using it. He didn't "flounce" away, didn't make a giant deal out of it, didn't even say he was doing so. He left Twitter in dignified silence.

Right gotcha @ByTheGrace. So people who seem reasonable are criticising her for people calling him out.

And so we shouldn't call him out as the tide is turning.

Right-o.

Maybe he's experiencing accountability

JKR's views aren't problematic in the slightest but Norton's definitely are. That newspaper interview above was very unpleasant.

I haven't seen anyone being nasty to him on twitter. If he has a public platform and uses it to put forward extremely controversial opinions then there will be disagreement. FWIW, I remember the vile way he treated poor Jade Goody, she never deserved that, it was awful.

I haven't seen any. Women don't typically threaten to rape and kill men.

It is supposedly her supporters who have gone after him.

Have we any actual evidence of this 'pile on'?

Genuine question. I haven't seen anything, but I may have missed it

No. I'm really surprised that no one has screenshot or archived, I arrived just after it was all over. Late to the party as ever.

I understand you haven't seen any, but that doesn't mean he hasn't received any. Which is why I said "you don't know this".
Typically they may not but I've seen plenty of women partaking in this type of language (in general on Twitter), so we can't know what he has/hasn't received. Plenty of men are also GC and disagree with Norton as well.

Who said he's been hounded off Twitter?

I don't know about anyone else, but it looks to me like he has removed himself from being 'held accountable' for what he said.

I don't blame him. But wouldn't it have been wonderful if Professor stock could just have removed herself from Twitter, and saved her job. And all the other women. Just remove themselves for a while, and save their livelihoods, court cases, reputations.

The reason he sounds 'sensible', is because very many people have no bloody idea about what's happening to women. Being arrested for posting ribbons and having stickers in their windows, being taken to court because they don't want to teach a dangerous ideology to children, going to tribunal after tribunal so that they can say sex is real.

You can't react to this with a 'little bit of common sense'.

It's a fucking outrage. Common sense?

Fucking A. It's infuriating. The pleas from women for a bit of a reasonable discussion, and let's have a little bit of common sense are so far gone they're not even a dot on the horizon of Neptune.

So let's start again.

Here's the common sense.

Not teaching children they are in the wrong body and need drugs for the rest of their life, having sex segregated sports, toilets, changing rooms and prisons, and being able to say breastfeeding.

Job. Fucking. Done.

Thinking about it, it's a double whammy. He gets talked about so publicity and everyone is apparently running round fussing and worrying why the man has left twitter while the evil woman who had the utter gall to whinge about a few rape and death threats is still on. Man as victim and focus of all pity, compassion and empathy despite his previous behaviour and innocent woman now the evil villain for being one of the subjects of his personal attacks and not vanIslington or something. Dare I say white male tears?

I understand you haven't seen any, but that doesn't mean he hasn't received any.

if you're going to argue that he has, you're going to need to back that up with evidence. Because quite a few of us now have said that we haven't seen anything.

Well he was clearly referring to something she'd said about women's rights and the clash between those and what trans people (specifically transwomen) are looking for. Most of what JKR said on that subject is in relation to women's safety and safe guarding so it's not a stretch to think he's talking about that? I'm sure Graham doesn't actively support the rape or murder of women and was just paying lip service to the TRA mob but considering JKR hasn't actually said anything transphobic she's going to have to take a guess on things she's actually said....