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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

So the Biden Administration DOES know what a man is after all - Transwomen still have to register for the draft

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bellinisurge · 11/10/2022 07:41

Laugh or cry?

So the Biden Administration DOES know what a man is after all - Transwomen still have to register for the draft
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BaronessBomburst · 11/10/2022 07:43

I laughed

Hotandbothereds · 11/10/2022 07:45

Interesting, this is really crumbling now.

SunnieShine · 11/10/2022 07:45

What do they mean, " as if" they were born male?

bellinisurge · 11/10/2022 07:47

Yeah the "if born male" is pretty funny. What else would they be born. Cue: some wanker playing the DSD gambit. DSDs are sex specific, dude.

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NonnyMouse1337 · 11/10/2022 07:48

Hahaha 😏

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 11/10/2022 07:48

Haha glad to see they recognise they're still biological men, although the 'if they were born male' is ridiculous. They simply are men 🤦🏻‍♀️

Igmum · 11/10/2022 07:49

Good. Here's to the USA waking up to this.

DameMaud · 11/10/2022 07:51

Maybe they've just realised the extent of loopholes that can be taken advantage of with self I'd - for both gain and avoidance- and only waking up to that when that impacts on their (the government's) needs. ..

ancientgran · 11/10/2022 07:55

Why don't women have to register for the draft?

dolorsit · 11/10/2022 08:18

ancientgran · 11/10/2022 07:55

Why don't women have to register for the draft?

Because it is a sexist law?

It is interesting when the state recognises the possibility that changing your legal sex could be abused my manipulative people but then denies it could be abused in other ways.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 11/10/2022 08:22

Perhaps they could have a special brigade ( a bit like the Monty Python suicide squad) . They could assault the enemy with frilly panties and false eyelashes. I bet the average grunt would run at sight.

Beamur · 11/10/2022 09:09

What a surprise. Govt shifts goalposts as it suits them . I guess TWA sometimes M after all.

bellinisurge · 11/10/2022 09:16

Tbh, I am surprised that the draft doesn't apply to men and women. In Israel, for example, it does.

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CrossPurposes · 11/10/2022 09:19

Here's a couple of appropriate links:

www.sss.gov/register/who-needs-to-register/
www.sss.gov/register/women/

oldwomanwhoruns · 11/10/2022 09:26

This has just got to end up in a court case with the ACLU? More wonderful sunlight. This could be huge. If they are men for the draft, then they must be men for sports, changing rooms etc?? This could be really huge.

ancientgran · 11/10/2022 09:31

bellinisurge · 11/10/2022 09:16

Tbh, I am surprised that the draft doesn't apply to men and women. In Israel, for example, it does.

Yes after over a century fighting for equality why are we treating men and women differently? I'm surprised it isn't challenged more as it is blatant discrimination.

Foxesforme · 11/10/2022 09:42

Conscription is horrific for anyone. Don't think we should be fighting for it as women or laughing about transwomen being included either.

ancientgran · 11/10/2022 09:45

Foxesforme · 11/10/2022 09:42

Conscription is horrific for anyone. Don't think we should be fighting for it as women or laughing about transwomen being included either.

Absolutely agree. Why is funny that someone is able to avoid the draft by saying they are a woman but it is fine for women to avoid the draft?

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/10/2022 09:47

Maybe we shouldn't be laughing. But I am.

Not at TW being included in a military draft. Conscription is obviously pretty unpleasant for all concerned. But at the fact that the very people who will shout and scream and write into law that TWAW then turn around and say, oh, but not in this instance, when it suits us, thanks. Despite insisting that TWAW when they are destroying women's sports and attacking women prisoners in the female prison estate. Because obviously women don't matter to them.

Because to be honest, it's laugh or cry, and if I start crying I might not stop.

napody · 11/10/2022 09:56

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/10/2022 09:47

Maybe we shouldn't be laughing. But I am.

Not at TW being included in a military draft. Conscription is obviously pretty unpleasant for all concerned. But at the fact that the very people who will shout and scream and write into law that TWAW then turn around and say, oh, but not in this instance, when it suits us, thanks. Despite insisting that TWAW when they are destroying women's sports and attacking women prisoners in the female prison estate. Because obviously women don't matter to them.

Because to be honest, it's laugh or cry, and if I start crying I might not stop.

This. Its like the exemptions from heredity laws for transmen in the UK. Without getting into conscription is right or wrong, the point is gender bollocks is only questioned when those in power stand to lose out. Vulnerable women being affected is not even worth considering.

Foxesforme · 11/10/2022 09:59

@SirSamVimesCityWatch
I am GC and absolutely see the point and why this is a good thing from a legal perspective re sports etc.

However, the idea of conscription terrifies me and laughing at any group of people forced to be included in that just doesn't sit right with me.

That governments are two faced isn't a surprise either.

MervynPumpkinhead · 11/10/2022 10:06

@SirSamVimesCityWatch you have articulated perfectly my views on this.

Torunette · 11/10/2022 10:25

I wondered when this one would click.

It seems they have finally realised that they have created legislation and policy that pretty much hands out a "get out of the draft" card to any male who wants one.

It's either that TW are M for this situation or include females in the draft -- and there is no way the US public will accept females being included in the draft. No way on God's green earth. They try to push that one, and it's civil war time.

Although, interestingly, it could put a stop to US foreign interventionism. People may be prepared to send their sons to fight wars abroad, but they will not be prepared to send their daughters into a potential Vietnam mark 2, even if those daughters are solely in combat support roles.

viques · 11/10/2022 10:31

ancientgran · 11/10/2022 07:55

Why don't women have to register for the draft?

Because they weren’t born as if they were men?

🙂

when biology hits the wall.

oldwomanwhoruns · 11/10/2022 10:38

But how is the Administration going to know just who are 'trans-women' and who are real women? If they are currently allowing men to change their M/F markers on official documentation?
Perhaps someone with some sense over there will finally realise that it is a really, really bad idea to let (and encourage) men to be able to falsify their basic records.
And they will have to stop pretending that these men are women. Because they are clearly not, when it comes to things that matter for the defence of the country.
And with Russia sabre-rattling, this is not just an academic issue.

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