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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

So the Biden Administration DOES know what a man is after all - Transwomen still have to register for the draft

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bellinisurge · 11/10/2022 07:41

Laugh or cry?

So the Biden Administration DOES know what a man is after all - Transwomen still have to register for the draft
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jeffgoldblum · 11/10/2022 10:38

I believe historically, women were not part of the draft because of two things .
1 . Needed at home to look after children, keep the country rolling.

  1. Needed to breed the future generation, if the amount of women of child bearing age died , it would affect the population of said county.
jeffgoldblum · 11/10/2022 10:40

Oh and obviously we are all fluffy and weak!

turbonerd · 11/10/2022 10:54

@jeffgoldblum
nr 2 is hitting the nail right on the head.

weird that.
»we do want women in the draft, but only those women born with testicles and a penis. Thank you for your attention».

Beamur · 11/10/2022 12:01

Yep. You need to keep the reproductive capacity going. Women are (perversely) too valuable to send into combat.

jeffgoldblum · 11/10/2022 12:17

Yep ! , I think one of the reasons men hate us is because of this! , they need us to procreate , if they could separate women from this they would!

Torunette · 11/10/2022 12:25

What I suspect they will do is say that TW are M for draft purposes, but evidence of regular and required hormone prescription makes you medically exempt.

That way, they can stop the GOOJF card, but also refuse any male taking x-sex hormones, which would be a significant logistics issue.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/10/2022 13:26

Beamur · 11/10/2022 12:01

Yep. You need to keep the reproductive capacity going. Women are (perversely) too valuable to send into combat.

Yep. One man can impregnate multiple women, but each woman can only bear (usually) one live young at a time, so a loss of breeding males is far less significant than a loss of breeding females.

Plus male average strength is much higher than female, so most men can be made into effective enough soldiers, capable of carrying the heavy equipment, body armour, weaponry etc fairly quickly and easily. Most women will require a far longer time period to develop the physical strength required, and a far greater number will not be able to do so.

Plus standard issue military gear is made for men not women, so body armour etc won't fit women. Interchangeable kit on a battlefield is useful.

Plus men have higher levels of aggression, due to testosterone and societal conditioning, making men more easily shaped into soldiers who will kill when ordered.

Plus the psychological impact of being able to tell men they are fighting to keep "their" women safe.

Plus women are vulnerable to rape in war. Women being raped has a detrimental impact on the moral of the country/ fighting alliance - babies born of rapes by enemy soldiers disrupt the "us Vs them" dynamic.

Really, there are a lot of reasons why women haven't been subject to the draft, none of which apply to transwomen.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/10/2022 13:27

*morale, not moral. Autocorrect.

HermioneWeasley · 11/10/2022 13:28

This pisses me off so much - so TWAW for the purposes of showers, rape crisis centres, prisons, sports but the moment it inconveniences the government then they know exactly what sex everyone is

bet they get the share accommodation and showers with the women in the military

BloodyHellKen · 11/10/2022 13:41

Ironically this is TWs opportunity to realise being a woman isn't all about make up and frills. It also includes being shat on by your government if it suits.

Maybe the draft gives TW the most authentic experience of womanhood yet 🤔🤣

ResisterRex · 11/10/2022 14:19

JKR:

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1579823436062691328?s=46&t=WraZvkOiqXNP-YWuav-QvA

"Rational: acknowledging the possibility that men might claim a female identity to escape the draft.

Hateful: saying some men claim a female identity to get easy access to vulnerable women and girls."

ancientgran · 11/10/2022 14:29

viques · 11/10/2022 10:31

Because they weren’t born as if they were men?

🙂

when biology hits the wall.

What part of biology means women can't register for the draft? Women serve in all the armed services, women in other countries are eligible for conscription.

It's sexism not biology.

ancientgran · 11/10/2022 14:30

BloodyHellKen · 11/10/2022 13:41

Ironically this is TWs opportunity to realise being a woman isn't all about make up and frills. It also includes being shat on by your government if it suits.

Maybe the draft gives TW the most authentic experience of womanhood yet 🤔🤣

Except women do escape the draft and it is the men being shat on by old men and all women thinking it is fine to send young men to fight and die but they are exempt.

bellinisurge · 11/10/2022 14:33

JKR being a legend again.

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ancientgran · 11/10/2022 14:33

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/10/2022 13:26

Yep. One man can impregnate multiple women, but each woman can only bear (usually) one live young at a time, so a loss of breeding males is far less significant than a loss of breeding females.

Plus male average strength is much higher than female, so most men can be made into effective enough soldiers, capable of carrying the heavy equipment, body armour, weaponry etc fairly quickly and easily. Most women will require a far longer time period to develop the physical strength required, and a far greater number will not be able to do so.

Plus standard issue military gear is made for men not women, so body armour etc won't fit women. Interchangeable kit on a battlefield is useful.

Plus men have higher levels of aggression, due to testosterone and societal conditioning, making men more easily shaped into soldiers who will kill when ordered.

Plus the psychological impact of being able to tell men they are fighting to keep "their" women safe.

Plus women are vulnerable to rape in war. Women being raped has a detrimental impact on the moral of the country/ fighting alliance - babies born of rapes by enemy soldiers disrupt the "us Vs them" dynamic.

Really, there are a lot of reasons why women haven't been subject to the draft, none of which apply to transwomen.

What do you think women in the military all over the world are doing? Sitting knitting? In modern warfare there are many roles that just doing require lots of physical strength. Think of someone sitting in the US operating a drone and killing a Taliban leader in Iraq. Now tell us why a woman isn't just as capable of doing that as a man and it won't have anything to do with rape.

BloodyHellKen · 11/10/2022 14:35

"all women thinking it is fine to send young men to fight and die but they are exempt"
Yes, all women really think this 😂🙄

I think you are missing the whole point of this thread which is that TWAW for as long as it's useful. Once it's not useful they are just men.

bellinisurge · 11/10/2022 14:36

The draft is different to volunteer army. If people are being drafted then the country is on some sort of war footing and has to think about protecting its population. Which, I suppose, means protecting women who will grow the next generation. Makes me shudder even saying that.

That said, women should be drafted into non-combat support activities as they were in this country during WWII.

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Baldieheid · 11/10/2022 14:40

BloodyHellKen · 11/10/2022 13:41

Ironically this is TWs opportunity to realise being a woman isn't all about make up and frills. It also includes being shat on by your government if it suits.

Maybe the draft gives TW the most authentic experience of womanhood yet 🤔🤣

Oh this is beautifully put.
Yes, here's the authentic womanly experience for them, all wrapped up in army fatigues. Identify yourself out of that, lovelies.

Marynotsocontrary · 11/10/2022 14:48

Ironically this is TWs opportunity to realise being a woman isn't all about make up and frills. It also includes being shat on by your government if it suits.

It's men who are getting shat on in this case, not women.

BloodyHellKen · 11/10/2022 14:51

Marynotsocontrary · 11/10/2022 14:48

Ironically this is TWs opportunity to realise being a woman isn't all about make up and frills. It also includes being shat on by your government if it suits.

It's men who are getting shat on in this case, not women.

And your point is?

Baldieheid · 11/10/2022 15:01

Yes, Mary, you are correct. It's men being shat on by their own govt, irrespective of their gender identity.

Marynotsocontrary · 11/10/2022 15:04

@BloodyHellKen My point is that transwomen are being shat on (in this particular instance) because they're biological men, not because they identify as women.

Sophie1980 · 11/10/2022 15:08

Klinger did well in Korea, and in non regulation heels.

BloodyHellKen · 11/10/2022 15:10

Yes, that is true.

Also I think you've perhaps misunderstood my post and the point I was trying to make which was up until recently it was women who were being shat on (at the expense of men who feel they are women) with the lack of provisions of same sex spaces/womens sport etc.

Baldieheid · 11/10/2022 15:11

I don't think they're being shat on specially, Mary. They're male, so they are being treated exactly the same as all the other eligible males. That's true equality. Allowing this subset of males to be treated differently from other males would be unfair.